An over-active immune response is just as dangerous as a suppressed one. lol at the conspiracy theory about a reputable doctor.
how is taking money from abbott a conspiracy theory, I showed you black on white that doctor is s peaker for the maker of humira, I showed you black on white he's taking money and you call it conspiracy theory
crohn is not an overreactive immune system to begin with, it is not RA so don't bunch up RA and crohn
" CD patients, despite their massive intestinal inflammation, suffer from a relative
immune deficiency"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22732089
" A substantial body of data has emerged in recent years to suggest that the primary defect in
Crohn's disease is actually one of relative immunodeficiency. "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19437144
" studies have altered the perspective on the pathogenesis of CD, hinting at defects in innate immune sensing of intracellular bacteria and the handling of these organisms through autophagy. These findings are consistent with emerging data from immunological studies that point to a systemic
immune deficiency in CD patients"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20594136
"Recent in vitro and in vivo data suggests that CD may instead be precipitated by
innate immune dysfunction"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17106921
We are immune DEFICIENT, maybe if some doctors understood that fact and stopped taking money and bribes every five minutes, people would have safer medication.
Suppressing an already immune deficient immune system is playing the lottery, one day it's going to go horribly wrong for some people.
You will never see me quote something from an MD, unless that MD is also a scientist, there way too many doctors who have dirty hands, Humira and remicade are top 10 selling drugs worldwide, there are billions and billions riding on the success of these drugs, ANY form of negative press is going to get squashed. Unlike doctors, most scientists are not in the pocket for big pharma, and I will trust them and the FDA (who has issued multiple black box warnings by now) over any doctor, you can't trust them anymore.
There are people dying from infections and cancers on humira and remicade, Crohn is NOT e lethal disease if it's treated, those medications ARE making it lethal for some people, which is unaccpetable.
Humira and remicade are the most lethal drugs on the market outside of painkiller overdoses, I showed the statistics once, they are the most dangerous of ALL medication on the market right now.
Over 1000 deaths related to remicade (infliximab) alone, that number is just as high for Humira and all the other drugs, in fact the FDA has warned again and again that more and more deaths are related to TNF blockers, now they added kidney and liver failure which before was not accounted for, now it has come to light that those kidney and liver failure are related to humira and remicade. There are literally thousands of people dying on these drugs, that is not "a conspiracy theory", it's facts.
That's all I'm going to say about, but I won't jump on this bandwagon, you don't even know half of it, there are thousands of doctors on the payroll of Abbott and Janssens, it's not a pretty story.
I am also not the only person who complained about it, there are many MD and biologists who complained about the dangers of these drugs. There is one account of an MD, which if you want I will find again, who wrote a heartbreaking story in a journal a few years ago and urged to stay vigilant and urged for safer medication once he lost a patient who died under his watch. Crohn is NOT supposed to be a lethal disease, and it's disgusting that these medications are making it lethal for some people. People deserve better.
There was trial just recently where a person received $72 million by a judge (was lowered to $20 million after) because doctors and companies did not warn her of the dangers of TNF blockers, the company had to pay that amount of money. Those are the numbers we're talking about, Remicade and humira are a billion dollar business, they are the drugs with THE biggest profit margins bar none, never in the history of drug companies have those kind of profits been made, for you to even suggest "conspiracy theories" when it's crystal clear to anyone with an ounce of vigilance that thousands of doctors are no longer speaking for their patient but speaking for their bottom line. This has to stop.
And it is ridiculous for some people to ignore these issues and pretend they aren't there or pretend that these numbers can be justified,
these deaths can NOT be justified, they are WAY too high, they are not acceptable, and instead of people silencing and keeping info from people, or like you're doing, trying to minimalise thousands of people dying on these medications, they should be talked about.
You're also way too fast to accuse others of scare mongering, if these figures scare you then so be it, they're fact and those numbers need to be out there for ALL to see, the risks need to be out there and they are REAL, people need all information, not just the happy stories, many stories related to these drugs are incredibly sad to read, and if you want to ignore them then go ahead and ignore them, but people have the right to know about the risks.