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08-09-2010, 03:52 PM   #1
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has anyone tried dmso? has it worked for you?
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I'm not sure what it is, but I think my sister who's a vet rubs it on her horses!!
I might be wrong
I'm sure that's what she calls it, DMSO, or dimso!
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09-20-2010, 07:40 PM   #3
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has anyone tried dmso? has it worked for you?
DMSO works like a charm for stricturing. You can be on your way to curing your crohns and be relatively pain free within 48 hours using a combination of pure DMSO and colloidal silver mixed about 70/30, then carefully applying to the site with a non coloured, non scented cloth or tissue.

DMSO is a super absorbent solvent so it burns and itches a little once it begins to absorb into your tissues. Dont be tempted to wipe it off it wont hurt you. Leave it on for a couple of hours if you can.

The DMSO will significantly reduce the inflammation and any scar tissue around the site. The 30% Colloidal Silver mixed in will sterilise the DMSO and also act on infections in your intestine. Most people with crohn's have these. As DMSO is a solvent it will transport the siler colloids directly into your blood & gut walls exterminating the bad guys.

Don't buy standard DMSO thats used for horses. You need pure pharmaceutical grade DMSO like the stuff from jacobs labs.

If you'd like any more info. Please reply here. I'd like to keep my comms on this forum as public as possible.

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09-20-2010, 08:41 PM   #4
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I haven't done a ton of research on DMSO or colloidal silver, but I do remember reading some negatives about both of them (can't remember the details, but I am almost positive of that). Do your research if you are thinking about using either of those, and ask your doctors even if they aren't usually into alternatives.

You could also do a search here for both of those topics.
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Thanks for sharing your insight Matt.

As My Butt Hurts stated, as with any treatment, whether that be western, eastern, or alternative, be sure to do your research and speak to your trusted doctor (and get additional opinions if you feel that's a good idea) before relying solely on anecdotal evidence.

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just to add to our Technical Admin's post, and to hopefully avoid any heated discussion which may arise from contraversial treatments being recommended by members, i would just like to remind all readers of our front page disclaimer....

We offer support, understanding, and friendship. However, please note we are not doctors, and any experiences, advice, and tips shared or given should be checked out with your medical care giver before acting upon - similarly Crohn's Forum is not responsible for any financial or physical outcome resulting from information given here.

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09-21-2010, 02:56 AM   #7
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DMSO works like a charm for stricturing. You can be on your way to curing your crohns and be relatively pain free within 48 hours using a combination of pure DMSO and colloidal silver mixed about 70/30, then carefully applying to the site with a non coloured, non scented cloth or tissue.
A cure for Crohn's eh... sure you dont live under a bridge?
09-21-2010, 11:52 AM   #8
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A cure for Crohn's eh... sure you dont live under a bridge?
How rude!
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Mattko- please don't be offended, we are all a bit touchy at the moment! I am glad you have found a treatment that works for you! But please don't assume that the treatment that works for you will work for us all. Crohn's is a very individual disease and people respond in different ways to different treatments. By all means, post some of your experiences here, and some facts or research about DMSO, and when I have time I can add it to our wiki.
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09-21-2010, 01:03 PM   #10
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Hi Rebecca. ok sure thing!

It's not every day someone compares me to a mythical ogre

I've had *amazing* experiences with DMSO particularly when mixed with a solution of colloidal silver.

I have stricturing crohn's and have avoided futher surgery a couple of times thanks to DMSO and CS.

Nowadays if I get any hint of pain in my lower right quadrant because of my stricturing and past scar damage caused by active flares I use this solution which works within 24/48 hours of application.

I simply mix pure DMSO with colloidal silver 70/30 and apply it over my abdomen, and then leave it for a couple of hours.

I can almost guarantee that I'll wake up the next morning with no pain whatsoever, without having to reach for the dreaded 40mg pred dose. The only side effect appears to be increased more watery motions for a day or so. I think this is silver killing bacteria in the gut. It appears to be worth it though.

I've got through several bottles of DMSO and i'm still alive!, I've even drank small quantities.. though not the nicest of tastes i admit

Where's you wiki at?

All the best,

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Mattko- please don't be offended, we are all a bit touchy at the moment! I am glad you have found a treatment that works for you! But please don't assume that the treatment that works for you will work for us all. Crohn's is a very individual disease and people respond in different ways to different treatments. By all means, post some of your experiences here, and some facts or research about DMSO, and when I have time I can add it to our wiki.
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+1 on what rebecca said, buddy....please dont take offense.

please realize that many people on here have heard the promise of cure time and time again, from friends, doctors, and nosy neighbors lol. understandably....over time a dislike of that word is deeply engrained.

im sure youve been there too huh? were all in the same boat!
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yeah, my buddy keeps telling me to eat worms.
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Just to add... If you are interested in using DMSO topically just be very careful when handling it. Make sure you have uber clean hands and don't apply it with anything plastic, coloured or scented. DMSO is a powerful solvent and may leech these properties, carrying them into your tissues/blood. Not good.

I can highly recommend the new DMSO available at jacobs labs. It's been reforumlated to remove much of the nasty taste you get in your mouth (its major drawback) after application to the skin.



Hi Rebecca. ok sure thing!

It's not every day someone compares me to a mythical ogre

I've had *amazing* experiences with DMSO particularly when mixed with a solution of colloidal silver.

I have stricturing crohn's and have avoided futher surgery a couple of times thanks to DMSO and CS.

Nowadays if I get any hint of pain in my lower right quadrant because of my stricturing and past scar damage caused by active flares I use this solution which works within 24/48 hours of application.

I simply mix pure DMSO with colloidal silver 70/30 and apply it over my abdomen, and then leave it for a couple of hours.

I can almost guarantee that I'll wake up the next morning with no pain whatsoever, without having to reach for the dreaded 40mg pred dose. The only side effect appears to be increased more watery motions for a day or so. I think this is silver killing bacteria in the gut. It appears to be worth it though.

I've got through several bottles of DMSO and i'm still alive!, I've even drank small quantities.. though not the nicest of tastes i admit

Where's you wiki at?

All the best,

Matt
09-21-2010, 01:10 PM   #14
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yeah, my buddy keeps telling me to eat worms.
helminth therapy... eeek. I'd have to be almost dead to attempt that!

I believe it works for some people though.
09-21-2010, 01:17 PM   #15
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Hey Kello,

Cool! no offense taken

Sure thing. I know what you mean. I'll definitely avoid using that word loosely here from now on.

Yes, you are right.. I've been there too I got over excited one time and flew all the way to amsterdam to pick up a batch of super expensive THC Oil. I really thought it was going to 'cure' me. All i got was permanent red eyes and a nasty infection

Matt



+1 on what rebecca said, buddy....please dont take offense.

please realize that many people on here have heard the promise of cure time and time again, from friends, doctors, and nosy neighbors lol. understandably....over time a dislike of that word is deeply engrained.

im sure youve been there too huh? were all in the same boat!
09-21-2010, 01:27 PM   #16
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....Not intended for drug use. No medical or other applications to the human body are advised or promoted for this product and such usage may be harmful. DMSO is quickly absorbed through the skin and can carry contaminants and impurities with it. Exercise care to avoid accidental skin contact especially to the eyes and face and/or wear protective gloves and clothing when using this product....


Right off of Jacobs Lab website...hmmm

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09-21-2010, 01:33 PM   #17
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Hardly rude. I asked a legitimate question...

We get many people come here looking for help, to take away information, to ask questions, a shoulder to cry on, or a thousand and one other reasons. Occasionally we get a few who claim perfect altruism, get very defensive at the slightest of questioning, and leave in a huff. Or get defensive from the off, even before anyone has made any suggestions of perhaps alterior motives being involved.

Claiming a cure kind of triggers our alarm bells. If you are genuine I, and many others here undoubtedly, will be very pleased to see your story as Ziggy suggested in your intro thread, but I don't recommend leaving us perched on the edges of our seat for next weeks enthralling episode because that too triggers some unpleasant alarm bells.
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They are exactly right and have to state that by law.

DMSO can carry contaminants as its a powerful solvent. That's why you have to be extremely careful when handling it. But nevertheless it works like a charm for me, and there are others I know who use it with the same success. I swear it works everytime I have bother in my LRQ.

If anybody is interested. I'd be happy to write a more detailed post about handling it and using it.

BTW. I'm not recommending or pushing this method of treatment.. just relaying my experiences.

Right off for some Pizza. Thats enough posting for me tonight. I've done enough damage to my reputation in the past 24 hours I feel like this website's most hated.

Im sorry again for the overwhelming arrogance folks just trying to help. I knew I should have taken my weeks holiday before I registered here.

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....Not intended for drug use. No medical or other applications to the human body are advised or promoted for this product and such usage may be harmful. DMSO is quickly absorbed through the skin and can carry contaminants and impurities with it. Exercise care to avoid accidental skin contact especially to the eyes and face and/or wear protective gloves and clothing when using this product....


Right off of Jacobs Lab website...hmmm

Jerry

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Hey Mattko,

It would be good if you could post the pros and cons of DMSO. My understanding is that there are some risks involved in its use. Maybe you could mention what these risks are and what you do to minimize them.
I would also suggest the same for Colloidal Silver. I have read that long term use of Colloidal silver can cause a build up of silver deposits in your skin and make you turn blue (googled some pretty amusing pictures of blue people).

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Hi Mattko,

Can you explain the DMSO and Colloidal Silver stricture treatment further? The DMSO is a 100% pure solution and Colloidal Silver is 70/30 mix. Where do you obtain the Colloidal Silver?

Thanks.
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. I have read that long term use of Colloidal silver can cause a build up of silver deposits in your skin and make you turn blue (googled some pretty amusing pictures of blue people).

Regards

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That blue guy was quite interesting. I've never seen anything like that before. I found it amusing he chose to wear a blue shirt to complement his skin tone.
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On September 9, 1965, the Wall Street Journal reported the death of an Irish woman after undergoing DMSO treatment for a sprained wrist although no autopsy was done nor was a causal relationship established.[11] Clinical research using DMSO halted and did not begin again until the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) published findings in favor of DMSO in 1972.[12] In 1978, the U.S. FDA approved DMSO for treating interstitial cystitis. In 1980, the U.S. Congress held hearings on claims that the FDA was slow in approving DMSO for other medical uses. In 2007, the U.S. FDA granted "fast track" designation on clinical studies of DMSO's use in reducing brain tissue swelling following traumatic brain injury.[12]

DMSO exposure to developing mouse brains can produce brain degeneration.[13] This neurotoxicity could be detected at doses as low as 0.3 mL/kg, a level exceeded in children exposed to DMSO during certain medical treatments.

Glove selection is important when working with DMSO. Thick rubber gloves are recommended. Nitrile gloves, which are very commonly used in chemical laboratories, have been found to dissolve rapidly with exposure to DMSO.[14] Because DMSO easily penetrates the skin, substances dissolved in DMSO may be quickly absorbed. For instance, a solution of sodium cyanide in DMSO can cause cyanide poisoning through skin contact.[citation needed] DMSO by itself has low toxicity.[15] Dimethyl sulfoxide can produce an explosive reaction when exposed to acid chlorides; at a low temperature, this reaction produces the oxidant for Swern oxidation.

Recently, DMSO disposed into sewers caused odor problems in cities: waste water bacteria transform DMSO under hypoxic (anoxic) conditions into dimethyl sulfide (DMS) that has a strong disagreeable odor, similar to rotten cabbage.[16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide

Not nearly as bad as Dihydrogen Monoxide. Join the call to ban DHMO! It's nasty stuff!
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None of the brain degeneration effects have been repkicated in humans. No one has ever died since. So long as proper precautions are taken during treatment, clinical grade dmso is considered safe. Www.crohnsforum.com/wiki/dmso

I do not use dmso myself, nor am I recommending it to anybody, however I feel that it deserves both sides of the argument to be presented.
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Not nearly as bad as Dihydrogen Monoxide. Join the call to ban DHMO! It's nasty stuff!
Thats rubbish, Dihydrogen Monoxide is known to cure many things. Its just no pharmaceutical company can patent it and make lots of money out of it so they try to make people scared of it. Ive been using to treat many things over the years. Ive used it for as long as I can remember and it hasn't done me any harm yet.
I will continue to use Dihydrogen Monoxide till the day I die. I highly recommend others try it also.
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Wait, what is dhmo? And what evidence do either of you have?
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http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
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Oh, I can see this dhmo getting controversial.

I only have anecdotal evidence on dhmo. Apparently its popular in Europe(so it must be good).
Its great to use on things like burns, I burnt my finger the other day and put cold dhmo on it straight away and it reduced the effects of the burn and took away the sting.
I drink this stuff every day. The more pure it is, the better it tastes.
I even use it for cleaning around the home.

I don't believe those scare monger tactics used at dhmo.org website.

Im not aware of any double blind studies being done,

Im not saying that it will cure millions of diseases, but having the recommended dose daily will improve your general health.

I highly suggest you google Dihydrogen Monoxide and read a few sites until you get to the truth about it.
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Oh, I can see this dhmo getting controversial.

I only have anecdotal evidence on dhmo. Apparently its popular in Europe(so it must be good).
Its great to use on things like burns, I burnt my finger the other day and put cold dhmo on it straight away and it reduced the effects of the burn and took away the sting.
I drink this stuff every day. The more pure it is, the better it tastes.
I even use it for cleaning around the home.

I don't believe those scare monger tactics used at dhmo.org website.

Im not aware of any double blind studies being done,

Im not saying that it will cure millions of diseases, but having the recommended dose daily will improve your general health.

I highly suggest you google Dihydrogen Monoxide and read a few sites until you get to the truth about it.
You need to open your eyes. Do you know how many people are killed each *day* by DHMO? Lots.

Dihydrogen monoxide:

* a major component of acid rain.
* contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
* may cause severe burns.
* is fatal if inhaled.
* contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
* accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
* may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
* has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

* as an industrial solvent and coolant.
* in nuclear power plants.
* in the production of Styrofoam.
* as a fire retardant.
* in many forms of cruel animal research.
* in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
* as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

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Oh I love a good debate.

You are correct on all of the above.

I work in pathology labs for and used to work on DHMO purification systems. The systems used for purification have to made of a special plastic as it corrodes metal too quickly and risks leaking.
Also when combining it with hazardous biological samples you have to wear gloves, protective gowns and protective eye wear is recommended. It can help draw the hazardous materials into your body.

But if used correctly in a safe and careful manner, it can do wonders for your health.

The FDA and CDC haven't issued bans or warning on it as yet. I might just have to buy up in bulk now just in case they do. I really don't think I could live without it.

To go a step further, in Adelaide where I live, the government are currently building a facility to produce dhmo. They have worked out a way of extracting it from the ocean and mass producing it to be distributed in our drinking supplies. No this is not a conspiracy theory, they are actually doing it.
Can it really be that bad for you?

I hope they never ban it. If they do, there will be many people that will suffer by not receiving their regular dhmo therapy.
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