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08-15-2010, 01:15 AM   #1
Amenace
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H. Pylori

Hi All

Hope you have all been doing ok. You've all been in my thoughts.

I have a question,did anyone here have the H.Pylori bacteria before they were diagnosed with Crohns?

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Lola
08-15-2010, 09:03 AM   #2
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I was tested for this when I started with the gallstones pain, but didnt have it
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08-15-2010, 09:04 AM   #3
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Hello, nope sorry! They tested me for that in the struggle to get me a diagnosis but it was negative!
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08-15-2010, 01:54 PM   #4
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Hi Lola! I tested negative as well.
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08-15-2010, 09:25 PM   #5
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I tested negative at least twice for H-Pylori, but when I treated myself for it, my burning stomach pain that was chronic at the time, went away for good.

I would not trust that a negative test means you do not have the bacterium. It can only prove you do have it. I have also confirmed this with at least two lab technicians, that these tests are not 100% accurate.

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08-15-2010, 09:28 PM   #6
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Actually, I am treating my wife for the same infection right now. She has been having Stomach pain trouble, but I am not sure what is causing it. Since she has Lyme Disease, it may or may not be related to that infection.

I should know within the next few days if it is H-Pylori.

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08-15-2010, 09:34 PM   #7
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Thanks All.

I acutally tested positive for the H Pylori bacteria about 2 months ago. Again, same as Chrohn's, no syptoms.

I only stumbled across it because i was checking to see if i had a nut allergy. My Allergist decided that he was going to test me for everything. Thus the breath test and the discover of H Pylori. Took a course of Antibiotics, re-tested and now gone.


Same with my diagnosis of Crohn's, routine colonsocopy as best mate discovered she had bowl cancer at the age of 36, wasnt expecting to find anything and BAM, mild Chrohn's. Again, no symptoms......YET.

Do i personally think the is a relationship between Crohn's and H Pylori, absolutly. Am i possibly wrong, Absolutly.

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08-15-2010, 10:05 PM   #8
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I also think H-Pylori is often involved with Crohn's, but i do not think it causes the disease. It may be one of the main bacteria that prodice symptoms though.

No proof either, but my wife's symptoms with the stomach pain, mucous in stool, big D, bears a lot of resemblance to Crohn's symptoms. I do not think she has the disease, but her symptoms would make you think she does.

I will have more evidence to go on in the next few days, if her problem goes away after treatment with my unapproved, experimental quack treatment that works for this infection.

Dan
08-15-2010, 10:08 PM   #9
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Hmmm Whats you unapproved, experimental quack treatment!!! You allowed to tell
08-15-2010, 11:14 PM   #10
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I use a frequency generator that is run into a high voltage vacuum tube transmitter that broadcasts a specific audio range frequency piggy backed onto an RF frequency for penetration. This is transmitted through a plasma tube that sits in front of you.

For H-Pylori the specific frequency of 676 Hz will kill or weaken the bacteria enough for the immune system to get rid of it. This method is commonly known a Rife frequency treatment. It was deemed a quack treatment quite a long time ago, although no authority has ever tested it to see if it worked.

I have and still test this method out when I get the opportunity. It is probably most often used for the treatment for Chronic Lyme Disease. This is what I started using it for, and was quite successful, once I figured out how to get it to work better.

It also has a very low risk, which is always my preference.

But it is still an unapproved, experimental, quack treatment. As long as it works, and is relatively safe, I do not care what it is.

Dan
08-20-2010, 11:25 AM   #11
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Interesting, Amenace. Just prior to being diagnosed with Crohns, I had H. pylori. Terrible, huge duoedenal ulcers that caused partial blockage in the stomach. The docs did an endoscopy and treated me with large doses of antibiotics. It was just a short while after that the Crohns symptoms started for me for the first time. My doc told me that he frequently sees patients come down with Crohns just after a serious bacterial infection. I'd like to hear more about your story.
08-22-2010, 09:00 PM   #12
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Hi YogaGirl

Well i had no idea i had H Pylori as i had no symptoms, i was in the process of getting checked for food allergies and my allergy guy decided to give me a breathe test and whaddaya know i have H Pylori. I took a course of the Antibiotics and H Pylori gone.

Same with my diagnosis of Crohn's, routine colonsocopy as best mate discovered she had bowl cancer at the age of 36, wasnt expecting to find anything and BAM, mild Chrohn's. Again, no symptoms......YET.

I really do believe they are related somehow.

Lola
08-23-2010, 02:22 PM   #13
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How strange! I could not imagine having Crohn's without symptoms. I did not know it would even show up in testing if you were not having symptoms.

The docs tell me that about 50% of the population has H. pylori, but it does not affect most people. Maybe it just affects us because we also have Crohns?

Ah, there is so much we don't know.

I hope you remain symptom free!
08-23-2010, 05:29 PM   #14
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I guess i should re-phrase, i have ulcers in the small intestine but they dont give me any problems, so i guess thats what i mean by no symtoms.

There is so much we dont know but i also truly believe that the specialists have no clue either.
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