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Jeff D. · 07-15-2007, 12:21 AM

I was wondering if anyone does lucid dreaming here. It is when you become aware of a dream and allows you take the dream wherever you want to take it to. I have always done lucid dreaming since I was a child and I do it more now that I am aware more of what I am doing. I was just wondering if anyone else does this as it is a very good thing to do for planning and preparing yourself in different situations.

I am trying to use this philosophy of "Be strong, be useful." by George Hebert. So what I do is use lucid dreaming to look at different aspects of my training and I go through it in ever kind of situation. It is great because I have learned so much about myself and my body awareness that I can do things that I never thought possible before. As long as my body allows me to do something I can do it because I have already run through it in my head and I know the feeling of what I am about to do. It is funny because I forgot to practice my guitar notes for today. So last night while dreaming I started a lucid dream and practiced what I needed to practice for today.

So again, I just wanted to know if anyone here did lucid dreaming to any affent?

Thanks

Sojourn · 07-15-2007, 02:45 AM

I have only practiced it in order to get out of a bad dream once I realized it was a dream. I've done this quite a few times in order to wake up.

Funny you mention this though as I had the most vivid dreams I've ever had last week when I was on painkillers. The most bizarre dreams I've ever had and they were layered one upon another. So I would realize it was a dream and force myself to wakeup only to find myself within another dream, etc., until I finally woke up.

Jeff D. · 07-15-2007, 02:59 AM

Wow that seems cool. I don't wake myself up but rather go and create the dream experience of whatever I would like to do at the moment. I practice the art of Parkour which you teach yourself how to run away as quickly and efficiently as possible. Well I was having a bad dream and I was being chased by some weird monster thing. Well when I realized it was a dream I turned the tables chased the dude and gave a woman her purse that the monster stole. Yeah it was still weird but it was really funny and my parents told me I was laughing really hard that night.

Kev · 07-16-2007, 01:54 PM

Never heard it expressed that way.. Learn something new every day. I have often turned a bad dream around when I was aware it was a dream.. but there have been some (prescription related) that unfortunately I wasn't cognizent enuff to turn nice... At other times, I have been tempted to controll my dreams, most of a nature we can't discuss here (maybe the lounge?) but have learned over the years not to. Why? found that by surrendering, relinquishing control, my inner id takes me places my conscious mind would probably not have considered. sort of a growth experience.. Do I analyze these dreams? never! Like, would you analyze a nightmare? No, I figure it's just my minds way of occasionally going 'arrrrgh'. OK

Sojourn · 07-17-2007, 05:07 AM

I had a girlfriend once who was always analyzing my dreams so I stopped sharing them with her. She was always trying to read too much into them.

I think sometimes useful insights can be gained, but it's too easy to get carried away with it. When I was on the painkillers, I knew it was a drug-induced mumbo jumbo of all kinds of images and thoughts that were floating around in my mind. Kind of like a bad acid trip. I've also had those that would be more suitable for "lounge" discussion that I began directing once I realized they were dreams. I always find myself waking up in those too soon.

Jeff D. · 07-17-2007, 03:55 PM

With lucid dreaming it's not that you are analyzing every aspect of your dreams. What you are doing in lucid dreaming is realizing you are dreaming and by doing thaht you can either watch it almost like a movie or you can just have fun and make the dream whatever you want it to be. To me it's a form of meditation almost.

Kev · 07-17-2007, 03:58 PM

I did a 'bad' acid trip, back in my wild & young days.. problem was, it wasn't one of those surrealistic trips... it was all too realistic, except for the way I behaved in it. I was working as a bouncer at a hot trouble spot.. someone slipped a lid in my drink (obviously while my back was turned).. I was at home, thought I was trying to sleep, but my brand new stereo wouldn't shut off.. no matter what I tried. So I calmly beat it to pieces.. didn't even think twice about it. In the morning, totally remembering all of what I did, I was shocked (and soooo relieved) to see my new stereo still intact. I can't express my feelings... not so much that my stereo was OK, more that no one had antagonized me or crossed my path while I was under the control of the acid. As they say, there but for the grace of God....

as for other types of 'dreams', esp the 'lounge' variety.. don't know how many times something or someone will disrupt one of those.. just when they're getting to the great parts. On occasion, i have been able to both get back to sleep AND back to the point where I was interrupted.. Not always, but often. Never have been able to figure out the 'method' per se.. the mind can be a great playground.. but sometimes a quagmire too. It's always pretty much a crap shoot.. (and, that's no pun intended - present circumstances and all).. Analyzing it is about as useful as analyzing a coin toss.. Figure time is better spent enjoying the good ones and totally forgetting the bad ones.. when u think about, pretty much applies to life to

Jeff D. · 07-17-2007, 04:24 PM

I don't know it's so weird that because I have been lucid dreaming ever since I was a little child so I guess I am one of the lucky ones to naturally do lucid dreaming. It's just a part of me I guess now. I never analyze any of my dreams but I have fun remembering them. I just use them to try to picture things I do in life. I have used it while playing soccer, riding bikes, and practicing for Parkour, even playing in front of people at gigs.

Sojourn · 07-18-2007, 04:02 AM

I understand what you're saying Jeff, I don't know how many are apt at this but you may be of the few. I can do it for a short period of time but usually wake up soon after I start to control the dream.

I was in a lot of pain last night so took a painkiller and had nightmares again that were layered one upon the other. I would think I had woke up only to find myself in another bad dream. I think it was 3 or 4 cycles before I had finally woke up. I was unable to control anything in these dreams. I'm reluctant to take these painkillers now. Maybe it's the brand, hydrocodone, because this did not happen with the oxycodone.

Being slipped acid without knowing it would be a terrible thing Kev. I took it recreationally for a few years, at parties and such, which is part of the reason I didn't finish college at the time.

Cara Fusinato · 07-18-2007, 04:33 AM

As to the painkiller dream thing . . . I had to take codeine many years ago for a bad, bad cough while I was travelling. After about 4 days of use, I began having vivid bad dreams every time I went to sleep, even for a nap. I mentioned it to a friend and she said it is a little known side effect of those types of meds. No one tells you about it because it is not a physical side effect. She used to have to take a lot pain meds and her doctor told her once she asked.

07-15-2007, 12:21 AM	#1
Jeff D. Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bama Posts: 4,622	Lucid dreaming I was wondering if anyone does lucid dreaming here. It is when you become aware of a dream and allows you take the dream wherever you want to take it to. I have always done lucid dreaming since I was a child and I do it more now that I am aware more of what I am doing. I was just wondering if anyone else does this as it is a very good thing to do for planning and preparing yourself in different situations. I am trying to use this philosophy of "Be strong, be useful." by George Hebert. So what I do is use lucid dreaming to look at different aspects of my training and I go through it in ever kind of situation. It is great because I have learned so much about myself and my body awareness that I can do things that I never thought possible before. As long as my body allows me to do something I can do it because I have already run through it in my head and I know the feeling of what I am about to do. It is funny because I forgot to practice my guitar notes for today. So last night while dreaming I started a lucid dream and practiced what I needed to practice for today. So again, I just wanted to know if anyone here did lucid dreaming to any affent? Thanks __________________ Jeff remember to discern everything. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00000686899395

07-15-2007, 02:59 AM	#3
Jeff D. Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bama Posts: 4,622	Wow that seems cool. I don't wake myself up but rather go and create the dream experience of whatever I would like to do at the moment. I practice the art of Parkour which you teach yourself how to run away as quickly and efficiently as possible. Well I was having a bad dream and I was being chased by some weird monster thing. Well when I realized it was a dream I turned the tables chased the dude and gave a woman her purse that the monster stole. Yeah it was still weird but it was really funny and my parents told me I was laughing really hard that night. __________________ Jeff remember to discern everything. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00000686899395

07-16-2007, 01:54 PM	#4
Kev Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 3,886	Never heard it expressed that way.. Learn something new every day. I have often turned a bad dream around when I was aware it was a dream.. but there have been some (prescription related) that unfortunately I wasn't cognizent enuff to turn nice... At other times, I have been tempted to controll my dreams, most of a nature we can't discuss here (maybe the lounge?) but have learned over the years not to. Why? found that by surrendering, relinquishing control, my inner id takes me places my conscious mind would probably not have considered. sort of a growth experience.. Do I analyze these dreams? never! Like, would you analyze a nightmare? No, I figure it's just my minds way of occasionally going 'arrrrgh'. OK __________________ KEV

07-17-2007, 05:07 AM	#5
Sojourn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 501	I had a girlfriend once who was always analyzing my dreams so I stopped sharing them with her. She was always trying to read too much into them. I think sometimes useful insights can be gained, but it's too easy to get carried away with it. When I was on the painkillers, I knew it was a drug-induced mumbo jumbo of all kinds of images and thoughts that were floating around in my mind. Kind of like a bad acid trip. I've also had those that would be more suitable for "lounge" discussion that I began directing once I realized they were dreams. I always find myself waking up in those too soon. __________________ Hospitalized & Diagnosed: 2004 Mission trip to India: 2004 Mission trip to Philippines: 2005 Contract job in Iraq: 2006 Abscess drained, temp. ostomy: June 2007 Lap-right-hemicolectomy: October 2007 Humira, Primal Defense, Colloidal Minerals, Low-res diet

07-17-2007, 03:55 PM	#6
Jeff D. Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bama Posts: 4,622	With lucid dreaming it's not that you are analyzing every aspect of your dreams. What you are doing in lucid dreaming is realizing you are dreaming and by doing thaht you can either watch it almost like a movie or you can just have fun and make the dream whatever you want it to be. To me it's a form of meditation almost. __________________ Jeff remember to discern everything. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00000686899395

07-15-2007, 02:45 AM	#2
Sojourn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 501	I have only practiced it in order to get out of a bad dream once I realized it was a dream. I've done this quite a few times in order to wake up. Funny you mention this though as I had the most vivid dreams I've ever had last week when I was on painkillers. The most bizarre dreams I've ever had and they were layered one upon another. So I would realize it was a dream and force myself to wakeup only to find myself within another dream, etc., until I finally woke up.

07-17-2007, 03:58 PM	#7
Kev Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 3,886	I did a 'bad' acid trip, back in my wild & young days.. problem was, it wasn't one of those surrealistic trips... it was all too realistic, except for the way I behaved in it. I was working as a bouncer at a hot trouble spot.. someone slipped a lid in my drink (obviously while my back was turned).. I was at home, thought I was trying to sleep, but my brand new stereo wouldn't shut off.. no matter what I tried. So I calmly beat it to pieces.. didn't even think twice about it. In the morning, totally remembering all of what I did, I was shocked (and soooo relieved) to see my new stereo still intact. I can't express my feelings... not so much that my stereo was OK, more that no one had antagonized me or crossed my path while I was under the control of the acid. As they say, there but for the grace of God.... as for other types of 'dreams', esp the 'lounge' variety.. don't know how many times something or someone will disrupt one of those.. just when they're getting to the great parts. On occasion, i have been able to both get back to sleep AND back to the point where I was interrupted.. Not always, but often. Never have been able to figure out the 'method' per se.. the mind can be a great playground.. but sometimes a quagmire too. It's always pretty much a crap shoot.. (and, that's no pun intended - present circumstances and all).. Analyzing it is about as useful as analyzing a coin toss.. Figure time is better spent enjoying the good ones and totally forgetting the bad ones.. when u think about, pretty much applies to life to __________________ KEV

07-17-2007, 04:24 PM	#8
Jeff D. Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bama Posts: 4,622	I don't know it's so weird that because I have been lucid dreaming ever since I was a little child so I guess I am one of the lucky ones to naturally do lucid dreaming. It's just a part of me I guess now. I never analyze any of my dreams but I have fun remembering them. I just use them to try to picture things I do in life. I have used it while playing soccer, riding bikes, and practicing for Parkour, even playing in front of people at gigs. __________________ Jeff remember to discern everything. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00000686899395

07-18-2007, 04:02 AM	#9
Sojourn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 501	I understand what you're saying Jeff, I don't know how many are apt at this but you may be of the few. I can do it for a short period of time but usually wake up soon after I start to control the dream. I was in a lot of pain last night so took a painkiller and had nightmares again that were layered one upon the other. I would think I had woke up only to find myself in another bad dream. I think it was 3 or 4 cycles before I had finally woke up. I was unable to control anything in these dreams. I'm reluctant to take these painkillers now. Maybe it's the brand, hydrocodone, because this did not happen with the oxycodone. Being slipped acid without knowing it would be a terrible thing Kev. I took it recreationally for a few years, at parties and such, which is part of the reason I didn't finish college at the time. __________________ Hospitalized & Diagnosed: 2004 Mission trip to India: 2004 Mission trip to Philippines: 2005 Contract job in Iraq: 2006 Abscess drained, temp. ostomy: June 2007 Lap-right-hemicolectomy: October 2007 Humira, Primal Defense, Colloidal Minerals, Low-res diet Last edited by Sojourn; 07-18-2007 at 04:05 AM.

07-18-2007, 04:33 AM	#10
Cara Fusinato Sarcastic Forum Comedian Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 616	As to the painkiller dream thing . . . I had to take codeine many years ago for a bad, bad cough while I was travelling. After about 4 days of use, I began having vivid bad dreams every time I went to sleep, even for a nap. I mentioned it to a friend and she said it is a little known side effect of those types of meds. No one tells you about it because it is not a physical side effect. She used to have to take a lot pain meds and her doctor told her once she asked.