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11-28-2011, 11:43 AM   #1
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What works for your depression???

I suspect this has been discussed before, but I'll ask again...What drug(s) work for your depression? I tend to be a pessimistic sort of person and was mildly depressed even before having my colon removed. (I tend to blame things like the violent rages of my brother when I was a kid and my year in Vietnam). It just seems like one bad thing after another and just when one gets under control, another appears. ie: a lifetime of UC flares, then polymyalgia rheumatica, 3 surgeries, and now pyoderma gangrenosum.
So, I'm on Pred again which makes me WIRED and more depressed. I have been on Zoloft for a year but see very little improvement with that. Meditation has helped me in the past, but only when things were going ok. When I'm depressed and on Pred. I can't meditate.
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11-28-2011, 11:59 AM   #2
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Hi Richard,
I have only had Crohns for a little over 2 years, I took Amytriptiline at first and then Disalopram which I have recently stopped.
I was very depressed as I'm sure most of us here have been but was only diagnosed with type two depression, which I believe is possible to turn around?
I decided to stop mine (my doctor isn't aware yet) an this is going to sound cringe but I've decided to accept that I've lost a lot of independence and focus on what I can, give myself a break, be proud of what I have achieved everyday and give thanks that I'm still a part of this wonderful universe!....you never know what the future may bring?
Wish you all the luck in the world )
11-28-2011, 12:01 PM   #3
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Ps. I took the drugs stated for depression, sorry that wasn't very clearly stated.
11-28-2011, 02:49 PM   #4
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I had a mild case (I think LOL) I am on pristiq, not sure if men use it. Works and no side effects and mild.
11-28-2011, 05:42 PM   #5
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I take Krill Oil and anti-inflammatory supplements. They got rid of my depression in the course of using the above for Crohn's treatment. I apparently had a Omega 3 imbalance, or chronic low grade inflammation, or both.

My son uses Rhodiola Rosea to control his anxiety/depression and it works better than any of the depression medications ever did, without the side effects.

It is trial and error, but it is worth trying different things. Like Crohn's, there is no one size fits all treatment. Once you find the right treatment, it makes all the difference in the world. It did for me, and it was completely accidental.

Good Luck

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11-29-2011, 01:27 PM   #6
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Currently on a combo of Wellbutrin XL for depression and Klonopin for anxiety. I had been taking xanax instead of the klonopin but my dr felt I needed something that was more of a maintenance drug than something to take "in the moment". I also see a therapist, we work on different issues and do some cognitive behavior therapy.
I have been on other antidepressants in the past, Paxil, Zoloft, etc. I have found the least amount of side effects from the Wellbutrin.
I tried Rhodiola, at Dan's suggestion. I can't say I noticed a difference, I doubled the amount I was taking after a short time and still didn't notice a change. So, I stopped that as it didn't work for me. His family has had luck with it tho, might be worth a try.
I was also doing yoga regularly until recently, had a flare and then was rear-ended in my car so the back and neck pain are a little too much to handle yoga right now. Am planning to get back into it very soon. I felt that helped me also, not just for the meditative part of it but the endorphins from exercise. David has something going in the Diet and Fitness forum on yoga right now, might be worth checking out.
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11-29-2011, 02:21 PM   #7
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I take things one day at a time and try not to worry about what I could be facing in the future with this disease.

I will do what I can today, I will deal today and let tommorrow take care of itself.

I am considering anti depressants as I have a history of clinical and post partum depression - so it would be "preventative" to ensure I don't fall down that dark hole again.
11-29-2011, 02:26 PM   #8
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11-29-2011, 02:37 PM   #9
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LOL - only then I get depressed about gaining weight from such goodies!!
03-19-2012, 09:36 PM   #10
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I was diagnosed with major depression and anxiety in 2006. I'm on Lexapro. Works well for me - but there are many drugs out there to be had. When you just don't feel like moving off the couch (like I did) it's time for therapy and possibly some meds!
07-28-2012, 12:49 AM   #11
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I have depression/anxiety and treat it with Lexapro. It helps me considerably, but I still have bad days.
07-28-2012, 01:11 AM   #12
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I am on Effexor for depression. I was also on Prednisone for pyoderma gangrenosum (well, it turned out not to be PG) so I know what you mean about being WIRED. After the 5th or 6th night of lying awake the entire night, my doctor prescribed sleeping pills. They helped immensely and since quitting the Prednisone (May 2010) I haven`t had to use the sleeping pills again - so they are not addictive. Hey, whatever works, right?
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07-28-2012, 08:15 AM   #13
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Thanks for your reply. I have PG and I'm curious what your "not PG" turned out to be. Seems it is often misdiagnosed.
I'm still on a low dose of Pred, but currently nothing for depression except vitamins. My D. seems to be cyclical, perhaps related to length of daylight, but other things too.
07-28-2012, 08:24 AM   #14
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1. Stay away from negative people
2. Find a hobby
3. Take natural
4. Stay away from prescribed depression meds
5. Be yourself
6. Exercise or bodybuilding to give you something to look forward
7. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
07-28-2012, 03:36 PM   #15
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1. What if you (meaning I) are one?
2. Who has time?
3. I do
4. I try to
5. Myself is very pessimistic
6. I do but not often enough due to lack of time.
7. Easier said than done
07-28-2012, 06:31 PM   #16
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07-28-2012, 06:58 PM   #17
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I'm on Bupropion/Wellbutrin. Worked wonders the first few months, still helps some. Can't tell if the medicine is losing it's efficacy or I just have too much going on to NOT be depressed! A lot of people like Lexapro, I had weird reaction to it. The Bupropion is supposed to help smoking cessation as well, once again it helped me cut back a lot the first few months, but not so much lately.

And the prednisone DOES make you crazy! Seriously, just being in a room with people makes me anxious and irritable, but then you get bored being at home alone all the time... Xanax helps with that too, but I try to only take it at night to go to sleep.

Hope you can find something that works for you, but don't put off asking for help if you you really need it. I wish I had just swallowed my pride and started antidepressants years ago. If something is wrong with your body, say, a fever or infection and there is a pill to fix it, you would take it right? So if there is a pill that can help a chemical imbalance in your brain, why not take it?!
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07-28-2012, 07:02 PM   #18
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Also, vitamin deficiencies can cause depression and fatigue... so get extensive blood work and take supplements, too. Between those and the meds, you should feel right as rain in no time!
07-31-2012, 09:46 PM   #19
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@Kwalker

How did you go from all those strong medicines to none???
07-31-2012, 10:05 PM   #20
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Originally started on Prozac about 10 years ago. Stopped working. Went to Effexor 75 mg and had to boost to 150, blood pressure went up. Changed over to Cymbalta 60 mg, and 10 mg of Doxepin . Works wonders. Have been on this for a few years. I also get Klonopin for when my nerves get out of hand.
08-01-2012, 12:48 AM   #21
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Wellbutrin twice a day. Once a day didnt make it through the day.

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08-01-2012, 06:07 AM   #22
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How did you go from all those strong medicines to none???
I just did lol. I spent all that time and money going to get remicade shots, missing work for numerous blood tests, money for prescriptions, etc when they weren't really doing anything for me so eventually I stopped while I was on Methotrexate and started distancing time between injections and when I wasn't feeling any difference I just stopped taking them. I've been med free since 2010 and feel awesome with no plans to go back on meds anytime soon.
08-01-2012, 07:41 AM   #23
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KWalker...did I miss something? Is your Crohns in remission? How do you deal with it? Diet, Vitamins?
08-01-2012, 02:03 PM   #24
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Nope. That's everything. My doctor/scopes "suggest" that I have active crohns but I have no symptoms at all and I'm a very active guy. I want to look into vitamins and would like to find one that would be beneficial but for the moment there are no vitamins and I don't follow a diet, I just eat pretty healthy...usually lol. How do I deal with it? With the best possible attitude I can have while knowing I have this disease. Sure I could need surgery one day, but so will a lot of people taking medicine. I'm just going to enjoy life now being med free and I'll face whatever comes my way if that time comes.
08-01-2012, 10:17 PM   #25
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I take sertraline and trazadone for depression. Works really well for me. Depression is a real illness, get help. If tou don't connect with your Mental Health provider, find another one. You may check into getting help through the VA. They usually have special help for Vietnam vets. Thanks for your service.
08-02-2012, 07:44 AM   #26
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I've taken Wellbutrin in the past and found that it helped get me past "the hump". Then once I started feeling a little better I was able to use exercise to get myself motivated.

Do you have any pets?? I know that sounds random but my dogs are a source of stress relief. They are a lot of work but taking them to the dog park and hiking with them and the look of sheer joy on their faces when I come home is worth it. It can add a lot of stress though too, so there's a trade off. It's something to consider though!

I hope you start feeling better! I know sometimes I could tell the difference between situational depression due to stress and circumstance and "somethings wrong that I can't seem to think/exercise/motivate myself out of". If you feel like it's the second, do not hesitate to take some meds and go talk to someone too!!
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08-02-2012, 07:57 AM   #27
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Somebody has already mentioned vitamins, but I would like to stress the connection between low Vitamin D and depression, which a lot of studies seem to support. Many Crohn's sufferers are very low in this vitamin and need to take quite large amounts to bring themselves into the satisfactory range.

There is a very interesting thread on Vit D HERE
11-28-2012, 04:26 AM   #28
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Rhodiola Rosea is also great for fatigue....I' may get back on it but need to research how it would be on inflammation.
11-28-2012, 09:06 AM   #29
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I take Wellbutrin XL for depression. It helps a lot and for most folks has minimal side effects. I second the dog suggestions. My dog is silly and makes me smile (he is 14 1/2) with his boneheadedness. He also makes me get up and get dressed every day so we can go walkies, otherwise I'd probably stay in my robe and slippers and not leave the house on some days.

Pre-Crohn's diagnosis and before being diagnosed with depression, I had some luck with taking 5-htp. It's hydroxytryptophan, which is a serotonin precursor. Your pineal gland will convert to serotonin/melatonin as needed. YMMV. Please do your own research and discuss with your doctor before taking anything that alters your brain chemistry, even natural.

Regarding pharmaceuticals, I have found Crazy Meds to be a super helpful guide to what you can really expect from different medications for anxiety/depression. It's a very "real" guide, so if you are offended by the occasional swear word or blunt talk about sexual matters affected by meds, give it a pass. It will give you the straight skinny from people who have been there and taken that, and not just the info from the package inserts that come with the meds.

Exercise helps too, but so often I feel too bad to exercise, or too fatigued (lots of health stuff other than Crohn's).

Doing little things I enjoy helps too. Don't know what the dude equivalent is, but when I do my nails, it makes me happy. Or, I enjoy spend time splattering zombies on my computer. Whatever works for you :-) Sometimes I need to "schedule" those things, as when I get more depressed I just kind of grind to a halt and do pretty much nothing.

I hope you are able to glean some helpful suggestions from this thread, and feel better soon. Sending you hugs.
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Thanks for the link to Crazy Meds website! Very informative and entertaining!
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