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12-10-2012, 11:20 AM   #31
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Thanks Gianni! Guess we'll be trying a Red Head soon!

KWalker, I've heard that berries don't work as well in juicers, but I haven't tried this out yet to see if it's true or not. We have used the blender for berries before, but hubby has to have the seeds strained out or it hurts the tum.
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12-10-2012, 12:36 PM   #32
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I'm using a blender right now because I currently don't have a juicer. It took my whole orange and had no problem destroying it the other day lol
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Get juicer if you can, It will be night and day difference over that blender. I love the model I use and it was like $100 (still a chunk of change, but works great, easy to clean, etc).
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3-4 Apples - Fuji is good, organic
1 Lime or Lemon – I like lime (use the rind also if organic, if not organic, peel it but leave the white )
fresh peeled ginger to taste- its hot so try a 1/4- 1/2 inch depending on width
Kale – 1-4 leaves with stems, depending on size and black kale is my favorite
1-2 stalks celery – optional but good for eliminating water retention
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Tried it, Loved it, Added it. Thanks ^^
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12-16-2012, 10:03 AM   #36
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Wow that sounds delicious! Saving that also!
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Thanks Gianni, I am also a believer that Crohns can be cured through diet. The only juice ive made is apples, carrots and beetroot. I am new to this forum and still finding my way on it. Thanks for the recipes and the nutritional facts.

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Welcome to the forum Zahid. Thats my usual juice too,and I add sweet potato and celery,really delicious.
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When you describe a juice as a "detoxer" or a "detox" recipe, what does that mean? What toxins are being removed? From what parts of the body? What is/are the mechanism(s) of detoxification?
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for the first ingredient listed, hiw much water if any do i need to add?

apples,carrots,sweet potatoes, ¿water?

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for the first ingredient listed, hiw much water if any do i need to add?

apples,carrots,sweet potatoes, ¿water?

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I don't add ANY water to my juices,but some others do.Personal taste I think.
01-07-2013, 11:15 PM   #42
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When you describe a juice as a "detoxer" or a "detox" recipe, what does that mean? What toxins are being removed? From what parts of the body? What is/are the mechanism(s) of detoxification?
Cell detoxification through a rapid influx of natural vitamins, minerals and enzymes. The cells shed their acid content and those acids are excreted via our lungs, kidneys, skin, etc....
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Cell detoxification through a rapid influx of natural vitamins, minerals and enzymes. The cells shed their acid content and those acids are excreted via our lungs, kidneys, skin, etc....
Have you got any sources for this?
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When you describe a juice as a "detoxer" or a "detox" recipe, what does that mean? What toxins are being removed? From what parts of the body? What is/are the mechanism(s) of detoxification?
Great question, When I first started juicing I wondered the same thing.

Well first off juicing in general is an amazing "detox" because the vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients, etc are all beneficial to the major detox organs like the liver, kidneys, skin, and lungs.

The liver has the function of filtering the blood coming from the digestive tract. So we eat toxic foods then the toxins are in our blood stream momentarily but the liver will hold on to these toxins and will turn the fat soluble toxins into water soluble ones through enzymes. Fat soluble toxins pose more of a threat because well they will stay in your body for a long period of time while water soluble toxins will be filtered by the kidneys and ultimately excreted as urine. The other more concrete toxins that could not be made into water soluble are excreted through bile produced by the liver.

The liver however is very sensitive especially in the modern world today with the influx of environmental toxins. Liver's will get sluggish fast and start accumulating a surplus of toxins. So in a way you can imagine the liver as a sponge which is constantly being squeezed and pulsed, but then it gets sluggish... so the dirt water starts to build up a little more at a time (toxins) which slows down the liver even more and more and it turns into a snowball effect. Then the sponge becomes placid and it is full of dirty water. So by giving the liver an inpouring of vitamins minerals and enzymes, it will start to soak in these nutrients and get healthier and pulse a little bit and a little bit more until all the dirty water (toxins) is out and start to work normal again.

The liver when diseased, inflamed, fatty, sluggish will start to release toxins irresponsibly and the toxins will instead be stored in our fat cells which can cause longterm health complications.

Here is a more raw way to look at it:

The liver plays several roles in detoxification: it filters the blood to remove large toxins, synthesizes and
gets rid of bile full of cholesterol and other fat-soluble toxins, and the live enzymatically eliminates unwanted
chemicals. The enzymatic process to dispose of toxins occurs in two phases: phase 1 (Oxidations) and phase 2 (Conjugation). Phase 1 neutralizes the toxin or changes the toxic chemical to form activated intermediates which
will then be neutralized by phase 2 of the enzyme system. This pathway converts a toxic chemical into a less
harmful chemical and is achieved by oxidation, reduction and hydrolysis reactions. During this process, free
radicals are produced and if there are too many it can damage the liver cells. With the help of antioxidant, it reduces
the damage caused by free radicals. One important antioxidant for neutralizing the free radicals produced in phase 1
is glutathione (GHS) is oxidized to glutathione disulfide (GSSG). This antioxidant is required for one of the key
phase 2 processes. When so many free radicals are produced from phase 1, the glutathione stops producing
oxidative stress or liver damage. The toxins are then transformed into activated intermediates; therefore the rate at
which phase 1 produces activated intermediates must be balanced by the rate at which phase 2 finishes their
processing. Phase 2 is called the conjugation pathway because the liver cells add another substance such as
cysteine, glycine, or a sulphur molecule to a toxic chemical to make it less harmful. As a result it makes the toxin
water-soluble so that it may then be excreted from the body via watery fluids such as bile or urine. There are six
phase 2 detoxification pathways:
1.Glutathione conjugation
2. Amino acid conjugation
3. Sulfation
4. Acetylation
5. Glucuronidation
These conjugation molecules join with specific enzymes to catalyze the reaction process. The liver is then able to
turn drugs, hormones, and other various toxins into substances that are secreted from the body. Read more: http://people.cornellcollege.edu/bno...liverDetox.pdf


As far as specific juices go: There are two types of Detox juices. What I mean by this is there are juices that will target the vitamins and minerals the liver in particular will need and then there are those that will try to achieve a high alkalinity and sulfur level.

Juices that target the liver will pertain to the above process I talked about


The alkalinity theory is a bit more complicated. Basically in a nut shell the theory is that these toxins hold a acidic ph level and your body will create fat to house these toxins.
(this goes along with the theory that it isn't fattening foods that is causing obesity issues but rather the influx of toxins). So the liver is sick, and the toxins are released into the bloodstream so your body holds on to more fat so that it can house the harmful toxins because it wants the toxins out of the bloodstream as soon as possible.

Now these acidic toxins are stored in fat cells so by giving your body Alkaline foods like vegetables, the acids will be neutralized and released and with them the fat cells will be too. So with that the liver becomes less fatty and healthier and the Ph level in your body will go down and neutralize many of the toxins.

The Alkaline theory is a bit more subjective and exactly that, a theory but it does make a bit more sense to me at least the fat part. Many people try to lose weight through exercise but It rarely works, in part because I think the body wants to hold on to the fat to protect you from the toxins it has encapsulated.

The sulphur aspect is more concrete and I'll let you read about it here :http://www.livestrong.com/article/317807-sulphur-detox/

Typically Juice Detox recipes will include a high alkaline through leafy greens while incorporating high sulfur produce like Onions and Garlic. Of course the leafy greens also play a double role by including very helpful vitamins to keep the detox organs healthy and happy.


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Perhaps I overlooked something but..Did any of theses posts cover
1) what and when to PEEL and not to PEEL?
2) water, no water added?

What do you think about the as-seen-on-tv NutriBullet?
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Perhaps I overlooked something but..Did any of theses posts cover
1) what and when to PEEL and not to PEEL?
2) water, no water added?

What do you think about the as-seen-on-tv NutriBullet?
I peel the thick skinned fruits like lemons and oranges but apples and such I leave unpeeled. Some people won't even unpeel their lemons and oranges so it is really up to you but I will warn you some juices can't handle the peels of the oranges and lemons. My first juicer couldn't handle them and actually broken when I put a lemon skin in.

No water added: Just dilutes digestion.
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As for the Nutribullet: I had never heard of it before so I looked it up and was surprised to see that it is David Wolfe product. I generally enjoy what he has to say but sometimes he seems like a sell out to me.

So basically the main difference here between juicing and nutribullet is that it takes the pulp also and makes it into a juicing consistency... not a smoothie consistency but a juicing one.

Honestly this just seems like a rebranding marketing tool to me. Let's take gatorade and call it Vitamin Water type of thing.

In big green letters on the front page it says "600 RPM's" Which to a consumer might seem superior to other blenders and juicers but really you want slower RPm's because nutrients can and will be damaged especially enzymes and antioxidants. My juicer, for example, rotates at just 83 RPM. IT slowly presses and squeezes the pulp so it gets a 1 time first press and won't damage the nutrients.

It is an interesting theory... extracting the nutrients but I doubt it works. I'd love to see some comparative studies pop up.

It may be worth a try, If you decide to go with the nutribullet, let us know how you like it

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Have just enjoyed the juice of 2 carrots,2apples,2celery sticks,1peeled beet and 2 handfuls of spinach.Really miss it if I miss a day.
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Thanks for all the great recipes! I just love juicing. My wife and I saw Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead on Netflix. The Aussie businessman that went on a juice fast.
And the truck driver that he helped inspire and possibly help him save his own life. Great stuff!

I am a juicing madman now! Just like a mad scientist of good food!

I've just tried this recipe this morning:
1 zucchini squash
1 cucumber
3 carrots
1 apple
1 pear
2 handfuls of pomegranate seeds
3 stalks celery
2 handfuls of cut mango
2 handfuls of regular parsley

Woah! Killer drink to wake up to after my morning 30 minute walk!

Keeps the little lady happy too!

Have fun!

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This is making a real difference in my life.

So far my favorite recipe is similar to the red head.
6-7 carrots
1 pear
1 beet (medium size) plus tops
1/2 (large) sweet potato

I've also added brocoli but that ruined the taste for me. A thumb of ginger made it strange but still drinkable.
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That's similar to my usual juice,although I do experiment often.I love my juices although I have noticed people crossing the street when they see me coming..........could be I'm becoming a Juicing bore.Well there's worse things eh ?
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I bought myself an expensive Juicer in December. Used it four times... typical of me. It's such a hassle to clean and prepare the vegetables that I never want to take it out. Which is a shame because I actually had a few good juices!

I took a few chemistry courses at McGill a few years ago, including one on food. The whole semester was riveting, and I distinctly remember reading literature for an exam on the detoxing programs and no evidence could be found to prove their claims. This was 2009 or 2010. Perhaps things changed.

Juicing is still an amazing source of vitamin though.

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I bought myself an expensive Juicer in December. Used it four times... typical of me. It's such a hassle to clean and prepare the vegetables that I never want to take it out.
You're not alone in that--which is the very reason it pays to shop the rummage sales
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Mine stays on the work top and has 5 parts.Wash veg,chop,juice.Empty fibre in recycled bag,rinse parts,drain......Enjoy Juice.I give it a good hot soapy wash every couple of days.When I first started I also found it such a chore,but it has become second nature.
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I love my juices although I have noticed people crossing the street when they see me coming.......... eh ?
LOL I know what you mean, even my wife gives me strange looks when I have a juice in hand.
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I had another attempt at the watermellow fellow today as I had half a melon left over.. although this time I tried to make it from memory and for some reason put 3 Fuji apples in!

It was ridiculously sweet, so I watered it down a little, which then made a very refreshing drink!
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Okay Question: Some of the recipes call for kale and swiss chard, my only concern....do these work as a laxative, should I be home soon after drinking them?? Im kinda new to Crohns soo is it the ruffage that makes you "go" ??
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Also thanks you for clarifying the ginger shot as a separate!! I added it to mu juices and the taste was real odd I couldn't finish the juice!!!
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Nope, they shouldn't induce a BM unless everything you eat induces one .
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That is sometimes the case!! I just dont want to have to go more than my above average usual LOL!!! Okay GREAT!! Im going to start with the red head in the morning! Im going to try a juice a day! Ive been having some tenderness and inflammation even while on my medicine soo I need to change something!!
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