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Undiagnosed and frustrated

Undiagnosed and seeking support

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I am here because I've been going through a LOT of digestive issues over the past year (possibly longer), and it has been very difficult to get any of the proper tests done by my doctor (who I have to wait at least a month to see every time). I have ended up in the hospital twice with symptoms, and they have done nothing for me except give me Gravol and Buscopan (with Glucose/electrolytes for dehydration) and sent me on my way. The only other option I have are walk-in minor emergency clinic doctors, and they don't seem to care, just send me on my way. After this last episode in which I haven't been able to work for a week and my next available appointment to see my doctor is not until mid-December, I'm at my wit's end!! This has been most frustrating - a diagnosis would at least help, but when I can't get tests done and hardly get in to see my doctor, it gets even more frustrating. I would like to know if anyone else can relate and let me know what the possibilities might be based on your own diagnoses...and what I could possibly do to alleviate these problems that I am currently trying to treat on my own until I can see my doctor again.

This started last year around summertime. Thinking back, I was having symptoms much sooner but I also had a bad drinking problem at the time and I thought I was just having hangover symptoms. I quit drinking last summer though, and noticed that my ill tummy didn't go away like I thought it would. Anyway, it started with on-and-off mild constipation followed by bouts of diarrhea that would last a couple of days, but not so bad that it seemed like something to be worried about. Each time, I'd blame whatever I ate. This occurred every couple of weeks. Then one day I woke up in the middle of the night with very painful stomach cramps and very bad nausea. I couldn't stop vomiting OR having diarrhea for at least 4 hours...I would have to sit on the toilet and vomit into a bucket, and pretty much just laid on the floor of my bathroom until that bout was over. Again, I blamed some fish I had the night before, because it really felt like food poisoning.

These symptoms started getting worse and worse, along with GERD and acid reflux. I started taking Zantec because that had worked for me in the past, but it didn't help the acid reflux all that much. In late November last year I started having very bad symptoms: a feeling like I had a rock in my stomach right below my ribcage, along with nausea and a mild fever, diarrhea, and bad intestinal gas (when I burped it tasted like rotting eggs). Each time I'd start vomiting with diarrhea I just kept thinking I was getting food poisoning, as I ate out quite a bit. This would come and go. Luckily I was working part-time hours at the time, and it didn't infringe that much on my work life. Then on December 29th, I ended up in the hospital for the first time. My brother and I attended a concert on the 28th and everything was fine...the minute we got back to our hotel room I felt 'kind of' sick, so I went to the bathroom and vomited. I ended up having to stay up all night, either with diarrhea or vomiting again. We drove back to our city, and he dropped me off at the hospital as I couldn't even keep water down. I was severely dehydrated. However, I was waiting in the emergency room for about 6 hours before anyone saw me and by then my nausea and diarrhea had stopped and I felt fine, other than a weak stomach and severe dehydration from all the vomiting. Because I wasn't exhibiting symptoms, they gave me Gravol and fluids, and sent me on my way. The doctors also figured it was something I ate, as we ate out before the concert.

About 2 weeks later, the same thing happened. This time I was experiencing the eggy burps, nausea and bad heartburn first, and I remembered that generally predated vomiting, so I ended up having to go home from work. The minute I walked in the door, I ran to the bathroom and threw up. I spent most of that day throwing up with diarrhea and ended up calling my mom to take me to the hospital again (it was a weekend). She waited with me for about 4 hours while I continually had to run to the bathroom down at the end of the hall where I had very watery diarrhea and was vomiting in the trash can there (although by the end, I was only vomiting mucous as there wasn't much in my stomach to throw up). She left when I started feeling better, and by the time I got in they realized there was something else wrong, and actually did some tests. I had a very slight fever, and elevated white blood cell count. Again, I was given Gravol and fluids and buscopan this time, since my stomach wouldn't stop trying to vomit. Unfortunately, the doctor that was on call and first saw me wasn't there after the IV had run its course and the other doctor had no idea why I was kept so long. Despite my protests, he made me leave (we have a small hospital and they are always over capacity), but scheduled me for an ultrasound later on to rule out gallstones or some kind of liver damage.

Meanwhile, my mom just found out that my aunt was diagnosed with Celiac, and was having similar symptoms. I got in to see my doctor, who also suggested an introduction diet to see if anything triggers my reactions. Sure enough, breads and stuff with wheat in them were a culprit. Ultrasound came back normal, my doctor prescribed Omeprazole for my acid reflux, I stopped eating wheat products (not very easily), and everything was fine again until this past month or so.

Lately I have been waking up at night with very painful cramps in my upper abdomen and mild nausea. Sometimes I throw up, but not often. Sometimes when I wake up, I have watery diarrhea as well as that pain. This lasts several hours and is now infringing on my ability to work my full-time job. Clinic doctors I have to see (due to calling in sick so often I am now required to get a doctor's note each time I do) recommend eating only soup and drinking lots of water when I have this pain (keep in mind that when I go to a clinic, it is generally a different doctor each time). This has generally helped up until this past week. Last Thursday I felt really ill all day, and a little crampy. On Friday, I woke up with this feeling like there is a lump in my stomach, along with waves of cramps as though somebody was grabbing and squeezing my stomach from the inside. That lasted a few days. Sometimes the cramp hits on my right side, but never painful enough to warrant going to the hospital again (and waiting another 6-9 hours to see someone, which is what I am really avoiding). For 2 days I was constipated and started getting bloated, so along with that lump in my stomach it started feeling as though I was pregnant, carrying this bloated weight around in my stomach. I was eating nothing but chicken and rice soup and finally took some laxatives, and that helped lift the weight off, but the minute I ate solid foods again I started feeling bloated and constipated again, so I'm either running to the bathroom every half hour and having diarrhea, or running to the bathroom and nothing is happening. I tried going in to work and had to leave because moving around made the pain WAY worse. The other night I woke up with that cramping pain and felt really nauseous...I threw up some meat I had eaten for dinner the night before, and it didn't even look like it had digested at all. I had to take more laxatives to get things moving again and now I'm starving, but I'm scared to eat because at least right now my bowels feel somewhat normal for once!

It's frustrating that I can't see my doctor until mid-December, and can only rely on these stupid walk-in clinics for 'treatment', which is just them giving me pills. What is frustrating is that they treat me as though I'm a hypochondriac or something, wasting their time with my 'trivial' illness (makes me wonder if there is something written on my record, the way they dismiss me). It's frustrating that I can't work, and it's also frustrating for those I have to work with, because not even I can rely on myself right now. Like, I had diarrhea early this morning again but I feel defective, and angry, like my own body is declaring war on my life. I want some answers, but they are difficult to get when my medical system doesn't want to acknowledge that I might actually have a problem. And the worst part is, there aren't a lot of people I can talk to candidly about this even just to get it off my chest.
 
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David

Co-Founder
Location
Naples, Florida
Hi there and welcome to the community. I'm so sorry you're having so much trouble :(

1. Ask for a referral to a gastroenterologist. I don't know exactly how the Canadian healthcare system works, but maybe one of those walk-in doctors can give you a referral so you can get the ball rolling.

2. Rotten egg burps can mean ulcer. Have them evaluate you for that/h.pylori.

3. Giardia, a parasite, can also cause rotten egg burps and could account for your other symptoms as well. Have they tested your stool for parasites?

4. Celiac is also a possibility and it's much more than just cutting out wheat. You need to cut out all gluten BUT if you suspect Celiac, cutting out gluten before you get tested can result in a false negative on the test.

5. Your symptoms don't scream IBD to me but it's certainly possible. I'd suspect the others first. Hopefully it's one of the others.

We're here for you.
 
Thank you David. Only a primary care physician can refer someone to a specialist here, which is frustrating because mine never seems to be available. I've never had tests done, because the last time I saw my doctor was when I thought it was because of wheat. I was fine for about 5 months, and then all the other stuff started.

I do still have my appointment with her in December, so I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
 

David

Co-Founder
Location
Naples, Florida
Wow, how frustrating :( If our roles were reversed, I'd ask for some of those tests AND the referral to the GI. If one of the tests comes back positive, great, let the primary doc treat you for that. But if they come back negative, at least the ball is rolling to get you seen by a GI.

Just please oh please don't let them tell you, "IBS" and send you on your way without first doing some tests.
 
Location
Uk
Aw I really feel for you evey!! Last 2 years were he'll for me until I got diagnosed after I needed surgery for a narrowing in my bowel..for me your symptoms sound like exactly what I experienced, loads of vomiting and pain. I agree with David, get hassling those doctors. For me the indicators that made the drs sit up and notice was high esr (inflammation markers in my blood) and low blood b12 and follate levels..so push for these. You ideally want them to do some sort of investigation, barium X-ray or ct or colonoscopy.

Keep a diary of eating, pooping and pain and show it to them!

I wouldn't want to suggest anything to do in case this is not crohns! But if you notice that high fibre stuff irritate you then it might be something to avoid but don't change your diet majorly without talking to a doctor!!

I hope you get help soon, to help u get an appointment describe your symptoms when ever they are at the very very worst....remember, general doctors hear people complaining all day every day, so you need to not be modest!! Hugs!!!
 
hi evey35.. im really sorry to hear you're having a rough time.
its the same here in the UK.. your GP has to refer you to a gastroenterlogist.. you cannot refer yourself :( but obviously to stop "hypochondriacs" draining the NHS.. unfortunately.. people like yourself and others (me included) are just a tough puzzle to solve that get lumped with doctors who dont know what theyre doing or just fob you off!

i agree with david and mia.. you need to push for that referral. or at least get your inflammatory markers tested. then you definitely needs a gastroscopy and colonoscopy.

there is an undiagnosed sub-forum under the support section.
come join us on there!.. we help you through your journey to getting some answers

please make sure you keep us updated.. and all the best xx
 
Hey evey,
I can somewhat relate. Mine was very similar and went diagnosed for almost 30 years. I just thought drop you to your knees and make your eyes water pain n cramping was part of life. I " self diagnosed" ibs in my late teens, change my diet n kept going forward. Hardly ever going to the bathroom, constipation was a way of life for me going once every 10 days or so ( so not normal). I quickly learned, during college years, that when pressured or under stress, i couldn't stop the diarrhea for a week or so, thinking absolutely nothing of it as i just thought my body was getting even with me for not going on a regular basis. Well, in April of this year, after working a 16&1/2 hour day in a stressful environment, my body really got even with me! I was soooo tired, had been running a decent fever for 3 weeks prior, been nauseated n vomiting on a daily basis and dropped into bed the second i got home. Hour n half later i woke with such excruciating pain, looked like i was 6 months pregnant and ran for the bathroom. I was both vomiting and pooping straight blood. I thought it was a bad case of food poisoning, i know right? I couldn't remove myself from the toilet, and i was trying to get someone at the ER to answer my call ( as we live 40 mikes from nowhere) and they kept refusing to speak with me. After making a diaper from a towel, i lost consciousness (13 hrs of straight bleeding) and awoke at the ER where my husband had taken me. The only good thing about my initial presentation is that i was still pooing n vomiting blood all over there floor so they took me back for CT i think. All i know, is LISTEN to your body...no one knows it better than you. Keep " pestering" the doctors. Call everyday if you have to, telling them your symptoms so they can chart/document them and hopefully this will help your dr make the decision for a referral to a GI. keep your head up n stay positive. You can get through this. Best of luck n best wishes on your journey and diagnosis. Thoughts n prayers with you. Muah- hugs-
 
Hi,
I'm a soldier stationed in Germany. At the start of this year I started bleeding when I opened my Bowles i was admitted to hospital in January, I rapidly went down hill and lost weight at a rapid rate and continued passing blood, in fact I lost so much blood I needed a transfusion, I also lost in total of 5 stone in weight I had numerous colonoscopies and ultra sounds and biopsies taken which showed i had inflammation in my large intestine. I was diagnosed with Crohn's I started on lafliximab but had a severe allergic reaction to it so i was started on Humira and continued taking azapriothine and mezalazine i was discharged from hospital at the end of April. Things were going well but in October I relapsed and ended up back in hospital as my body was not reacting to any medication. The doctors now think i had UC that is non responsive to any medication. Surgeons decided the best course of action was a total colectomy with Ileostomy. Life has improved massively however the hospital will not go firm on a diagnosis for Crohn's or UC as I'm sure your aware usually only UC is found in large intestine. Even after biopsies on the large intestine no one can confirm what I have all they say its Crohns colitis. SO FRUSTRATED!!!! Feel like I can't move on and what step to take next. Is there anyone else in the same situation???
 
Hi David,

I've tried:

Lafliximab (reacted to).
Humira.
Azapriothine.
Mazalazine.
Prednisolone (steriods do not work my body does not react to them).

I do not have copies of the biopsy results as they are with the hospital in London (where i was flown to when i was ill) however I have an appointment on the 19 December and I will ask for a copy.

Kind Regards.

Scottie.
 
SUCCESS I have been diagnosed with UC and I'm booked in to have J pouch surgery in February. I'd like to wish everyone a very merry Christmas and peaceful new year.
 
That's awesome Scottie!! Hope surgery goes all and you feel much better!! Best wishes. -hugs-
Merry Christmas n happy new year!!
 
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