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12-03-2012, 04:54 AM   #1
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Ayurveda for crohns

Today I got a chance to discuss abt crohns treatment with an ayurvedic doctor, who is well known in india......he said crohns is 100% curable which I have never heard from an allopathy doctor......I have already tried homeopathy sometime back for my crohns but it didn't help much.....


Just wanna if anyone here has tried ayurveda or any alternate treatment for ur CD/UC
12-03-2012, 07:37 AM   #2
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12-03-2012, 08:05 AM   #3
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When I told the ayurvedic doctor abt my ileostomy surgery he said all that was unnecessary and he cud have cured it using his medicines......am confused nw......I wish I shud have contacted him earlier....anyways...sid ur opinion plz....also is it advisable to take ayurvedic medicines with our pentasa and azo?
12-03-2012, 10:40 AM   #4
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Also this member seems to have found success with Ayurveda

http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=33981
12-03-2012, 12:31 PM   #5
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Hi Shalini,

Glad that you considered ayurveda...yes ayurveda can completely cure crohn's (atleast I belive so), a said by ayurveda practitioners. When I went to the kabiraj (ayurvedic practioner in bengali)..he guaranteed that it wil get itcured. I belived him cause..he kept on insisting that crohn's was just like ulcerative colitis and I didnt get what he was saying (which I understood after I searched on the net)..and he has patients who have their ulcerative colitis cured. I didnt start his medicine as I am already on a special diet along with pranayam routine which is helping me greatly already.

Ayuirveda is a perfect route to treat something like crohn's.If you notice..ayurveda doctors have been using stuff like ginger,amla,triphala and turmeric(curcumin) as natural anti inflamatory medicines along with many other poweful herbs and spices for thousand of years, which the modern science is discovering right now. The principles of Vata, Pitta and kapha along with vayu is perfect science in itself and has been proved even by the scientist and millions of people have been cured of incurable desease through ayurveda.

I am not going into details..only thing I ould say to answer your question is ..yes ayurveda is a perfect treatment option for crohn's. As far as you second question is concerned..once I asked my ayurvedic doctor the same thing..he said with allopathy ayurvedic medicine can be used but only until it is not clashing with thiose drugs (remmeber even if ayurveda uses natural and hebral medicines that doesnt mean that they dont have side effect)..but yo can never take ayurvedic medicines wit homeopathy.
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12-07-2012, 08:47 PM   #6
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Hi Sid,

Today I received an email from an ayurvedic practioner called James vaidyan who is located in cochin. He said crohn's is curable and had promised me to give some contact numbers of patients who have received his treatment. ..let's see...fingers crossed.....
12-08-2012, 02:19 AM   #7
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Hi Sid,

Today I received an email from an ayurvedic practioner called James vaidyan who is located in cochin. He said crohn's is curable and had promised me to give some contact numbers of patients who have received his treatment. ..let's see...fingers crossed.....
Thats great shalini....you are lucky to be located in south..I know the best of the best ayurvedic doctors are located in south. And all the best fot the treatment..take my word..you will be totally corhn's free..just never loose hope...there are many others who have beaten crohn's and so can you. BTW please keep updating me on the treatment in case you go for it. If need arises I would like to get treated as well...I wouldnt mind visiting cochin for that. you may add me in your facebook acount also..as i am trying to create an awarness programme for Crohn's patients in India through a Facebook Page.
01-15-2013, 10:37 PM   #8
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I am travelling to the ayurvedic hospital (www.ayurveda.org) in coonoor to stay there for a month (mar-apr) and get treated for Crohns. I'm keeping fingers crossed.
01-20-2013, 08:30 PM   #9
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I am travelling to the ayurvedic hospital (www.ayurveda.org) in coonoor to stay there for a month (mar-apr) and get treated for Crohns. I'm keeping fingers crossed.
Sorry for the late reply as I was held up in other activities......All the best......Do msg me when u come over here....let me know if u need any help.
01-30-2013, 12:54 AM   #10
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welome to the forum vnag ..and good to hear that you are going for ayurveda to treat your crohn's..I am 100% sure you will get results very soon.All the best
01-30-2013, 01:14 AM   #11
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if it "cures" Crohn's, then why isn't it all over the news?? I mean, there are so many "cures" out there and what works for one person MAY NOT work for someone else due to allergies or the body rejects the treatment all together with no effect on the ill person.

just wanted to know and am not trying to start anything. there are so many claims out there, one has to be careful you know so as not to be scammed $$$ wise and health wise.
01-30-2013, 01:16 AM   #12
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it's a scary world out there and I really hope that if this cures IBD, then it should be made more public.
01-30-2013, 02:03 AM   #13
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it's a scary world out there and I really hope that if this cures IBD, then it should be made more public.
if it "cures" Crohn's, then why isn't it all over the news?? I mean, there are so many "cures" out there and what works for one person MAY NOT work for someone else due to allergies or the body rejects the treatment all together with no effect on the ill person.

just wanted to know and am not trying to start anything. there are so many claims out there, one has to be careful you know so as not to be scammed $$$ wise and health wise.
The reason why you dont hear about this are many...firstly the western world hardly knows about ayurveda, thus they dont get a chance t try it...secondly, the cases in ayurveda are rarely documented and presented, they hardly have any medical journals.

All i can say is it all comes down to what you belive. I know cure isnt the right word. on this forum..but people who actually know about ayurveda, know what they are talking about.
01-30-2013, 03:50 PM   #14
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Couple of things with Ayurveda and the conventional western treatments (purely my understanding/take on things):

1. Ayurveda is over a 1000 years old (if not more). Conventional procedures are less than a few hundred years old. Havind said this, the conventional treaments available today for IBD actually started their research well after 1950s (and hence is relatively new).

2. The IBD conventional medicinces available in the market treat the systems and not the source (as the source of the issue is yet to be identified by the researchers). The only thing that is know is - the TNF alfa malfunction (which is more along the lines of where the trigger is).

3. The news about conventional medicines is all over the news since the pharmaceutical companies are heavily invested in marketing of the drugs and need to get the money back that was invested in R&D.

To give you an example, LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) apparently has lesser side effects compared to Remicade, Humira etc. However, the cost of that drug is around a measly few dollars. However, Remicade and Humira cost is roughly $2k/month. Hence there is no company that is willing to conduct studies for LDN as there is less money involved. Hence there is no push to get an FDA approval for LDN to treat crohns. Hence the doctor's are not willing to prescribe this for Crohns (even though the benefits are better).

I confirmed this theory with my gastroenterologist who agreed with me that in this capitalistic world, this is exactly how it works (money speaks)!!

4. With Ayurveda, the western countries do not trust it much! Ayurveda is a natural way of treatment (yoga, food restrictions, natural fruit juices, enema with natural herbs, breathing exercises and eventuall getting rid of the toxins in the body before actually treating the symptoms). This requires more discipline and requires the patient to take time out of their busy life to do all these day until IBD is brought under control. Having said this, not everyone's body reacts the same way. Some may get total remission but for some it is temporary remission for a few years after which the treatment needs to be done again.

The biggest benefits of ayuvedic treatment are - there are no side effects, the treatment focuses on strengthening the body instead of treating the symptoms. In principle, ayurvedic treatment can be done in parallel with the taking conventional medicines on the side. The ayurvedic treatment costs less than conventional medicines over the lifetime with faster results. [On a side note, ayurvedic doctors earn less than conventional doctors].


5. The biggest issue in ayurvedic treatments not getting famous (purely my take on this): This branch of treatment is from a third world country which does not have a lot of documentation except for the results that speak for itself. It is not commercialised even in india (possibly due to lack the marketing skills or the finance for it). Ayurvedic treatments are not meant for all types of diseases and has its limitations. Even with IBD, the ayurvedic doctors treat patients only if IBD has not reached the third stage (surgery) yet.
02-27-2013, 09:42 PM   #15
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Reached the ayurveda hospital 3 days ago. I've been taking light treatment for 3 days now with restrictions on diet (milk, rice, yogurt, pomegranate, bananas!!). My stomach is feeling much better after a very long time... So I am hopeful with another 20 days more to go.
02-27-2013, 11:00 PM   #16
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Thats good to hear, thank you for the update! Keep us updated, best of luck!
02-27-2013, 11:37 PM   #17
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Good luck
03-12-2013, 04:30 AM   #18
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Reached the ayurveda hospital 3 days ago. I've been taking light treatment for 3 days now with restrictions on diet (milk, rice, yogurt, pomegranate, bananas!!). My stomach is feeling much better after a very long time... So I am hopeful with another 20 days more to go.
wow Vnag..sounds great and just as I expected..if you have got results in 3 days then am sure after the full course of treatment you will be totally different with regards to your health. I am a bit amazed to see pomegranate on the restriction list..pomegranate is known to be a great anti inflammatory fruit and is especially used in treating UC and crohn's in ayurveda. Vnag please keep us updated on your treatment...I really excited about it. Thnaks for posting
03-12-2013, 09:55 AM   #19
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Maybe I didn't explain clearly.. The food that I listed is what I am allowed to eat. It is too early as I am still taking medication. I have another 2 weeks more to go.. (Keeping fingers crossed).
03-12-2013, 12:25 PM   #20
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all the best buddy...
03-24-2013, 09:34 PM   #21
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Just wanna know how it's going? I hope you're getting better!
04-08-2013, 10:09 AM   #22
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Hi Vnag, How was the treatment so far? Where did you take up the ayurvedic treatment...Please let us know and fill in the hopes.
04-08-2013, 12:28 PM   #23
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I have returned from my treatment back to California. I am doing much better so far.

I am doing reasonably well without the Ayurveda medicines. I have been asked to follow the medicines for 3 months which. I am hoping for the best . The key things for Ayurveda is diet restrictions and Ayurveda does not recommend any 'meat' based food. The doctor will also provide a list of veggie food items to avoid and ones to follow.

Since each person's body responds differently to Ayurveda, I am not sure I can offer hope. So far it has been working for me .
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Thanks for letting me know the treatment. Good to know that it is helping you.
I also live in Bay area, but currently in India looking for a better treatment for Crohn's. If would let me know the name & place of this ayurvedic center that would be very helpful.
04-08-2013, 11:36 PM   #25
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Please refer to www.ayurveda.org
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Thaks for the update Vnag...nice to know u're doing good. I knew for sure you wil get beter result..what am interested in is how long the effect lasteven if you're following the veg diet prescribed by ayurveda.
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I have always been a vegetarian so I am not sure I can answer that .

Secondly being vegetarian is not a magical cure to keep/maintain the effect. Even as a vegetarian, I need to follow a restricted diet to maintain the balance in the body (till I heal fully !!).
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I have always been a vegetarian so I am not sure I can answer that .

Secondly being vegetarian is not a magical cure to keep/maintain the effect. Even as a vegetarian, I need to follow a restricted diet to maintain the balance in the body (till I heal fully !!).
ofcourse not. If vegetarian food could mean freedom from crohn's then I or you wouldnt have this desease at first place.I dont say it is cure for that. period. all i am saying is the effect that lasts after folowing the diet (which ofcourse is veg, as weall know) prescribed by ayurveda.
04-10-2013, 03:08 PM   #29
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It is too early for me to comment. Its barely been 10 days since I got back.
05-15-2013, 07:39 AM   #30
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hi all,

My mother has been recently diagonised with Crohns disease. She is 48 and loosing a lot of weight. I have read on net alot about ayurveda treating it. Can you please suggets me a ayurvedic doctor in Delhi NCR wherein i can take my mother. Thanks.
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