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12-11-2012, 05:20 PM   #1
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SCD/Paleo/GAPS Support for December 2012

This is a place where those who are choosing to use the SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet), Paleo, or GAPS diets can freely share their experiences, exchange ideas and recipes, and find encouragement. Those who are choosing a diet may or may not be using medication. We will assume that those involved already understand the risks involved in medications or the lack of medications.

We thank you for honoring our desire to keep this section as a place of support. If you would like to debate whether diets are a good idea, please begin a new thread for that. Thank you so much!
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12-11-2012, 06:25 PM   #2
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Great thread! Thanks for posting.

Here are some links in case anybody wants to read
1. www.breakingtheviscouscycle.com
2. www.pecanbread.com
3. www.scdlifestyle.com
4.foreverscd.blogspot.com

All are great websites to check out for recipes, tips, and over all general info.
#4 is our very own Snoflayk's thread and has lots of personal experience and some delicious recipes
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12-11-2012, 08:39 PM   #3
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I just order the Breaking the Viscous Cycle Book!

I can't wait until it comes in
12-11-2012, 08:46 PM   #4
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I just order the Breaking the Viscous Cycle Book!

I can't wait until it comes in
I found it very fascinating and it just made sense to me. Until then nothing else really made much sense. Once you read the Science behind it, you will be even more motivated to begin and stick to the diet.
12-11-2012, 08:49 PM   #5
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Also, when choosing to do the SCD but dairy free ~ sometimes I find that Paleo recipes (that include all legal foods) are actually better for us since many of the SCD recipes lean on the yogurt, butter, and cheese.

Some more good websites (watch ingredients)

www.nomorecrohns.com
www.thepaleomom.com
www.elanaspantry.com
12-11-2012, 08:52 PM   #6
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We had cauliflower mashed potatoes for the first time tonight. I have no idea why we never tried this before. They were actually very good. I think the key is to make sure they are well cooked and well drained.
12-11-2012, 09:05 PM   #7
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Really? We've been wanting to try those for so long but never have. And really? I've actually found quite a bit of dinner recipes that didn't require milk/yogurt. My fiancee uses Pinterest and finds some amazing recipes for SCD. Today we actually had an SCD friendly dinner..kind of lol. We had fresh baked fish with dill and lemon on top and then we had a spinach salad. All of that would be legal but I had dressing on the salad which wouldn't be legal so I need to figure out a substition for the top of salads.

Do you just buy regular honey from the store or is there a specific one to look for?

I'll send you the links to the dinner recipes when I figure out how to use her pinterest so I can find them. Oh, and you can get Spaghetti squash which is legal as well and would be a great substitute for pasta.

I must say, I was expecting chocolate to be illegal but I was kind of disappointed to find out Carib was illegal as that would have been a great substitute.
12-11-2012, 09:54 PM   #8
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I should rephrase my last statement ~ I have a difficult time finding recipes for baked goods which are both SCD friendly and dairy free. I have found some but many of them lean on that yogurt so much. I don't have such a problem finding dinner and main meal sort of recipes. Feel free to share any recipes you try and love and I will do the same.

Chocolate has been the biggest bummer for us. Even my poor son has asked a few times if I could make something with chocolate and honey that is sugar free, but then I must remind him that chocolate in and of itself is a no-no. Surely that is a mistake, right?
12-11-2012, 09:59 PM   #9
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There are 6 of us and we are all trying to be as SCD compliant as possible (although the rest of us aren't 100% like my 11 year old). I buy most of my honey from Sam's club and it is by far the best price. You can buy a 5 lb bottle of Sue Bee pure honey for $12 dollars and some change. I prefer local raw honey, but it is double the price and not practical (for the budget) for cooking with. I try to save the raw local honey for raw uses (drizzling on top of things).
12-12-2012, 07:02 AM   #10
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Oh okay, then yes that's the same as us for the fact that we've found tons of non-dairy main meals but the treats/baked goods seem to use dairy in most of them. I'm not a huge "treats" type of person to begin with but it's going to get some getting used to not eating chips or ice cream.

I bet that's expensive feeding 6! We used to eat a lot of pastas even with the two of us because you can buy it in bulk and it's cheap. It won't be as bad because like you said with the cauliflower mashed potatoes, I'm sure a whole head would feed the both of us and that's only like a dollar, but way healthier.

Do you drink coffee? I guess you might not follow the diet as strict as your son but coffee is actually legal. We just got a new Keurig as an early Christmas present and I was kind of bummed thinking I wouldn't get to use it, until I found out coffee is legal! Of course milk and sugar aren't but I was thinking it might not taste too bad with some honey in it. I'm going to try the coffee and see how it goes because it's definitely not something I could just quit cold turkey.

Oh, and I thought it was funny, yesterday I was either replying to your PM or writing in here while eating a Joe Louis. I'm sure you know what those are but if not it's pretty much the equivalent of a chocolate twinkie in a different shape! haha. Definitely won't be eating those anymore
12-12-2012, 08:39 AM   #11
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Oh, and I thought it was funny, yesterday I was either replying to your PM or writing in here while eating a Joe Louis. I'm sure you know what those are but if not it's pretty much the equivalent of a chocolate twinkie in a different shape! haha. Definitely won't be eating those anymore


12-12-2012, 08:45 AM   #12
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I'm not a huge "treats" type of person to begin with but it's going to get some getting used to not eating chips or ice cream.
Me neither. I am trying to figure out some good treat ideas for E though. I mean, he is eleven so I want him to have something to take along to a Christmas party or Birthday, etc.



I bet that's expensive feeding 6!

I have learned to do it as inexpensively as possible. Again, focusing on the fresh stuff and not trying to duplicate a bunch of breads and baked goods helps a lot!!!!

Do you drink coffee?
I don't drink it anymore. I used to, but I quit about two years ago because I have thyroid issues and I keep hearing that coffee can mess with the adrenals. It is nice for you that it is legal
12-12-2012, 12:03 PM   #13
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Here are some ingredient websites I found

http://againstallgrain.wordpress.com...y/scd-recipes/

http://comfybelly.com/by-recipe/#SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet)

Once I find the other websites on Pinterest I will post them but these two are saved on my toolbar. I haven't even looked at them lol. My fiancee does all the searching haha. I think she's more excited than I am!

It seems like people are still hesistant to "come out" with the SCD diet
12-12-2012, 12:34 PM   #14
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Once I find the other websites on Pinterest I will post them but these two are saved on my toolbar. I haven't even looked at them lol. My fiancee does all the searching haha. I think she's more excited than I am!

It seems like people are still hesistant to "come out" with the SCD diet

Thank you ~ I know I have looked at the against all grain site before but forgot about it. Good reminder to save it to my tool bar too.

You do realize that you are incredible blessed with such a supportive fiancee, right? I think you should marry her fast!
12-12-2012, 12:39 PM   #15
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LOL we have to finish school, or atleast be closer to the end first. Most of the money we have goes towards paying tuition haha. But yes, that's the plan

It gets better, she even packed my abscess after surgery! haha
12-12-2012, 12:39 PM   #16
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It seems like people are still hesistant to "come out" with the SCD diet

I completely agree with you. I hope that having a monthly thread for support will help this. It is sad that so often threads where someone is asking for help turn into a debate. I respect the opinion of those who do not agree, and I respect their right to voice their opinions but support threads should be for support not for defending yourself.

I hope this makes someone feel more free to ask questions and discuss these diet options if they are choosing that route or are interested.
12-12-2012, 12:41 PM   #17
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LOL we have to finish school, or atleast be closer to the end first. Most of the money we have goes towards paying tuition haha. But yes, that's the plan

It gets better, she even packed my abscess after surgery! haha
Wow, that is awesome! I understand finishing school first. Just don't forget to treasure her!
12-12-2012, 12:47 PM   #18
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Oh I know, I wouldn't change anything We live together and have our monthly "date nights" where we go out and just forget about school and have fun. Of course now I'll be munching on a piece of celery while she gets to eat good restaurant food LOL
12-12-2012, 07:07 PM   #19
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Oh I know, I wouldn't change anything Of course now I'll be munching on a piece of celery while she gets to eat good restaurant food LOL
I think restaurants are just tough. Outback Steakhouse is very allergy aware and they even have a gluten free menu. I have heard that if you order things cooked without seasoning, they are super easy about it. If you go with the plain stuff (a steak and veggies), have no seasoning added, and bring your own dressing, etc then you might be okay for a special date. Just a thought.
12-13-2012, 09:12 AM   #20
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I was looking online and of course Outback is a US thing! One of our favorite restaurants we go to actually has a grilled chicken parmesan with fresh veggies and whole potatoes, or I always get the Tilapia (fish) with fresh veggies and whole potatoes. I definitely think they would give me the chicken or fish plain and just the veggies. It's a really good restaurant and I think that would still be good.
12-14-2012, 12:28 AM   #21
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I think most restaurants that cook the food fresh are good at working with special diets. Do we make a steady diet of eating out? Of course not, but the occasional time should be okay if you try to follow the rules the best you can.
12-16-2012, 04:48 PM   #22
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I feel like we are making great progress with E. He is down to one semi-loose stool per day. He has had no joint pain and his energy is picking up. I think (cross my fingers) that we have successfully added in natural peanut butter, which I am hoping will help him get more good fat and put on weight.
12-17-2012, 08:36 AM   #23
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Good! That's so awesome! I also have good news, but not as good as yours lol. The other day we went out for dinner to our favorite restaurant to celebrate the end of exams and I found out they have a gluten free menu as well! It's a fancy italian restaurant but they'll make gluten free pasta/pizza, steak w/ veggies, etc! I was pretty excited!
12-17-2012, 09:31 AM   #24
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Do you add sweet potato to your mash? I think that it's legal for SCD and is very good for you (high in calcium, folate, potassium and beta-carotene) and has a low glycemic index. I almost always mash it with my potatoes.

Sorry, just checked and they are illegal for SCD, but swedes (rutabaga) aren't and they are good mashed.
12-17-2012, 09:47 AM   #25
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Yeah sweet potatoes are illegal. I've never heard of the mashed rutabega but I know many people (like Charleigh) mash cauliflower.
12-17-2012, 10:05 AM   #26
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If you've been cooking meat in a frying pan, after you have taken the meat out, add the mashed cauliflower and a scrap of water or stock to get the bits up, stir through the cauliflower and cook a few moments - gives a lovely taste.
12-17-2012, 01:51 PM   #27
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mm yeah that would be good!
12-17-2012, 08:39 PM   #28
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I have to confess that I am an interloper here. I don't follow SCD, Paleo or GAPS, but I am on no meds and haven't been since my proctocolectomy in 2000. I basically follow an adaped version of the Blood Type Diet and I think that this has a strong influence on my maintaining reasonable control over my Crohn's. (I don't like to use the rem...... word for fear that the evil fairy godmother might be listening! )
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Wow Susan that's amazing!

Oh, you still haven't shown me a pic of your schnauzer! (I think it was you that had one too)
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Here he is, somewhat windblown, on the beach where I live:



He went to the groomer the other day to get his summer haircut.
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