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01-04-2013, 07:23 PM   #31
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Thanks! I have been some version of paleo/GAPs/SCD for about 4 months. Doing well! No meds, 1-2 BM a day. Belly pains only if I overeat.
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01-04-2013, 07:24 PM   #32
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Tell us how you make the coconut shrimp! yum
01-04-2013, 07:32 PM   #33
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Oh that's awesome! Did you do the steps for the diet or just start eating the legal foods?

For the shrimp, you just dip the shrimp in a beaten egg, and then dip them in shredded, unsweetened coconut. We used medium sized coconut. Fill the frying pan with enough olive oil (we use extra virgin) to cover the bottom and once it gets hot, you can set the shrimp in and it takes about 5 minutes to cook!

You should join us in our SCD support threads each month as well and I've put in a request for a SCD/Paleo subsection so we can share info/ideas and recipes!
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01-04-2013, 07:36 PM   #34
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I didn't do the intro diet exactly, but for about 3 weeks, all I ate was pureed organic food, smoothies, yogurt, and soup. All soft, digestable foods. I had just had a bowel obstruction so I was very careful not to eat anything that wasn't smooth and liquidy.
01-04-2013, 07:51 PM   #35
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ohh okay that makes sense. As I mentioned in a post at the beginning I'm currently doing well with my crohns without medicine so I figured I would skip the steps and go right to all legal foods and see how I do but if a few weeks go by with no changes I'm going to do the intro diet I think
01-04-2013, 07:52 PM   #36
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Thank you so much for including pictures, KWalker. It makes the whole idea seem less intimidating for some reason!

I hope this goes well for you!!
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01-04-2013, 08:03 PM   #37
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Thanks SarahBear, I appreciate that I figured the pictures would help you guys because it shows how easy these recipes really are, but it also helps me because I can remember the steps/ingredients (usually) if I look at the picture and then I'll be like "oh yeah!"

I just made a smoothie and it includes hazelnut milk, a banana, cantelope, and blackberries. It's SO good! I could drink these all day, and with the hazelnut milk there's lots of calories!
01-04-2013, 11:41 PM   #38
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Best of Luck! Your food pic posts are making me hungry.
01-05-2013, 02:19 PM   #39
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Thanks Judith

Day 4: January 5th
I only went to the bathroom once yesterday and once in the middle of the night! Huge improvements! I notice the drainage from my abscess has really gone down. It could be related to not going as much but there is a significant decrease in drainage.

I've also gone through 95% of a pretty decent size container of pure honey already lol. When you can't have sugar anymore, the diet really calls for honey for a lot of the recipes. Aside from yesterday in the grocery store surrounded by all that food I really haven't had any major urges for "junk" food. Living so close to 3 grocery stores I could easily get any food I want within minutes and so far I've been doing really well without cheating.

This morning I had my morning coffee with hazelnut milk and honey. I think I've got the hang of it and so far I'm doing well with keeping coffee in my diet. I had to go out this morning so I did kind of a brunch type of meal.

Brunch: Banana Pancakes, which by the way are much better than regular pancakes, topped with honey and strawberries. Also had some apple sauce and a pure fruit juice which consisted of mango, orange, pineapple, and many other fruits.



I currently have banana bread baking in the oven and am in the process of making ketchup

Dinner: I couldn't think of a better way to spend a Saturday night than TACO NIGHT! To keep it legal we used lettuce for the "shell" and then we made our own seasoning which tastes way better/more authentic than the stuff you get in the package! It's perfect because you don't finish eating by hating yourself because you just ate too many tacos but when they're made like this it's guilt free!



Then I made a taco salad as well

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01-05-2013, 03:17 PM   #40
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It looks great! I am glad you are seeing improvements Awesome!
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01-05-2013, 08:30 PM   #41
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Good idea few things I personally stay away from is eggs and orange juice because eggs help a ton to make you feel better because of the omega 3 but it tends to clog up the intestines and delay the stool possibly leading to more immflamation over time. A lot of gas and flear ups come in time for me 3 to 4 months.

Make sure to have your partner put pressure on your sides near the large intestine and feel for tender or pain. Put pressure below your belly button and look for tender or pain.


Good Luck all the best
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01-05-2013, 09:11 PM   #42
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Thanks, I'll look into the eggs and orange juice. I've been eating/drinking them because they're "legal" so I didn't look into it any further.

As far as the pain, we've done that and couldn't feel any pain. I remembered that because my old doctor always used to push on those areas and when I was younger there was definitely pain there. Mariah (my partner)'s aunt is a chiropractor so she tried to adjust me over the holidays and my muscles wouldn't allow her too so she said if I got adjustments and massages it would help loosen me up and could potentially even help with crohns. (Why a lot of crohns people do yoga)
01-06-2013, 11:22 AM   #43
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Day 5: January 6th

I feel like complete crap today. My joints hurt, I still have this stupid headache and I feel weak and without energy. I also have a fever. I've only eaten apple sauce so far today and I'll probably spend the day in bed relaxing if it stays like this. Are these common side effects of starting the diet?

For lunch I ended up eating some banana bread (made with almond flour), some fruits and some candied pecans. Nothing more than just finger food that I could slowly snack on.

For dinner, we had Quiche made with bacon, ham, cheese, mushroom, and broccoli.

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01-06-2013, 01:13 PM   #44
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I feel like complete crap today. My joints hurt, I still have this stupid headache and I feel weak and without energy. I also have a fever. I've only eaten apple sauce so far today and I'll probably spend the day in bed relaxing if it stays like this. Are these common side effects of starting the diet?
Those are common initial side effects of almost any diet involving a change in carbohydrate consumption. Are you drinking lots and lots of Water? Because dietary changes in carbs and fatty acids can dehydrate-which then results in headaches.

If you can take OTC pain meds. Then I recommend "Goodies Headache powders", which are actually just a combination of aspirin, IBuprofin, and caffeine, however, it's all pulverized into an extremely fine powder, so it's absorbed almost directly into the bloodstream, without going through normal digestive process--eliminating stomach upset often caused by taking aspirin. Plus, it works much, much faster.

I discovered "Goodies" first time I tried the Adkins diet, and found it resolved the headaches within 20 minutes! Same headaches and results with the South Beach Diet, which is also a carb. restricted diet.

Negative side effects usually start to lessen in about 10-14 days. I never did fully regain my energy levels while on carb. restricted diets though, and I've tried quite a few. Never stayed on any of them for more then a few months at a time though.

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01-06-2013, 04:40 PM   #45
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Day 5: January 6th

I feel like complete crap today. My joints hurt, I still have this stupid headache and I feel weak and without energy. I also have a fever. I've only eaten apple sauce so far today and I'll probably spend the day in bed relaxing if it stays like this. Are these common side effects of starting the diet?
Unfortunately, this is normal. When I said E got worse before he got better, this is what I meant. He began having fevers of 103 with no other symptoms. He had two fever episodes in one week. He was very weak and tired and he lost a few pounds that week Then, it was like someone flipped a switch and he hasn't had that problem since. At least you know what it is, it will help you to push through.
01-06-2013, 05:16 PM   #46
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Okay good, thanks Charleigh. Knowing this is normal makes me feel a lot better. I started really craving a nice big chunk of chocolate today but even if I wanted to cheat, I had absolutely no energy to get up and get any. I am finally starting to feel a little bit better after taking ibuprofen thankfully. I've only went to the bathroom once so far today which is also good and keeps my hopes up for future success. I went to the bathroom last night and it was actually quite sore because I had to push to make it come out so it was quite solid at first but then went back to D throughout the BM.

Also, you can disregard the last part of my PM because you answered it here lol.

Ya Noy- I'm drinking quite a bit of water. I cut out pop and Monster energy drinks "cold turkey" so I've been keeping a cold bottle of water with me at all times so I can take a drink whenever I think about getting up to get a sugary drink. I will look into "goodies" and see if it's allowed. I need to start doing my research on the legal pain meds and supplements/multivitamins I can take so I can make sure I get all my nutrients. There's a brand called Freeda and it's an SCD specific brand with different vitamins available.
01-06-2013, 06:17 PM   #47
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I know it's not the right time of year for you, but I'm eating them right now and might forget when your stone fruit season comes around...I find that stewed plums (skin on, but zapped into a puree) are really easy to tolerate. I've loked at a few sources and they seem to have quite considerable anti-inflammatory properties. I prefer the red-fleshed types, like satsuma. They do, of course, contain fruit sugars.

Because I love them, and their season is fairly short, I freeze in relatively small quantities so that I can defrost and have a taste of summer during the depths of winter.

I also eat raspberries and blueberries - zapped and strained to deseed - at this time of year. They both contain considerable quantities of flavonoid and other anti-oxidants .
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01-06-2013, 06:56 PM   #48
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We have plums at the grocery store right now but I'm not sure which kind. The natural sugars found in fruit are allowed as well. I've been wanting to make a peach-plum smoothie actually.

I'm starting to feel better also. Mariah made a Quiche for dinner with bacon, ham, mushroom and broccoli. I'll upload a picture when I go on a computer. I also made myself a smoothie with hazelnut milk, banana, blackberries, strawberries and spinach. It tastes a lot better than it looks lol
01-06-2013, 07:09 PM   #49
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It doesn't matter what sort of plums they are, they all contain the same qualities - I just like the dense red ones better. But don't peel any of the plums.

I need to peel peaches and, even then, can only tolerate small quantities.

I love summer here when all the stone fruit is in season, but I can give myself diarrhoea very easily!
01-06-2013, 07:17 PM   #50
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Well I hope I don't get diarrhea from all the smoothies I've been drinking! I just saw your edit and also really enjoy raspberries and blueberries. Is the high amounts of flavonoid a good thing? I've never heard of that before.
01-06-2013, 07:35 PM   #51
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Oh, yes, flavinoids are certainly good things! There is a lot of research going on at the moment into their effects, but there seems to be general concensus that they have anti-oxident properties, helping the body to get rid of free radicals, and promising research into their positive effects on protecting the body against cancer and heart disease.

There are a number of different flavinoids, but the ones in red fruit and vegetables (and red wine) are anthocyanidins. They seem to be particularly strong in their anti-inflammatory, antioxidant and other qualities.

And don't worry about the diarrhoea - I have a shortened small intestine and nothing below that, so am more susceptible than most. If you get it, just back off a bit and experiment until you find what is doing it to you.
01-06-2013, 10:56 PM   #52
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I forgot to say this but I tend to boost my body up with good foods that raises my immune system which in turns starts get my immune system in the attack mode for some never ending cause on my intestines aka crohns in a nutshell. Look out for that when the immune system peaks higher with all the antioxidants.
01-07-2013, 07:28 AM   #53
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I've searched the forums and couldn't find anything about this, but what about the expense of being on the SCD? Does it cost more than eating the way people who aren't on a restricted diet eat? if so by how much? Alot?
01-07-2013, 08:07 AM   #54
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Thanks Susan, I did not know that! I have seen studies that some of the oldest people in the world drink a glass of red wine everyday and it's supposed to be very beneficial.

Beatit- How would I ever know if my immune system is too high? Are there ways to tell? I didn't know there could be "too much of a good thing" when it comes to diet.

halfstep44- I don't think anybody could ever give an accurate estimate on the cost of the diet because it could basically be as cheap or expensive as the individual wants it to be. Like Charleigh said earlier, if you try to duplicate bread recipes it can become expensive but I made my own bread from almond flour and I found it very dense and it will probably be my last time making it because it wasn't as good as I was expecting and almond flour isn't cheap.

We usually spend about $300-$350 a month for groceries for two people. Sometimes there are better sales than others and some times we splurge and buy certain meats that are more expensive. Just think though, you could go to a fast food place and easily spend 15-20 dollars for two people to eat a meal that is made out of the lowest quality food and isn't good for anybody, or that 15-20 dollars could get you a decent amount of fruits and vegetables that will last you a week or two.
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I've searched the forums and couldn't find anything about this, but what about the expense of being on the SCD? Does it cost more than eating the way people who aren't on a restricted diet eat? if so by how much? Alot?

There are too many variables to truly give a dollar or percentage amount. Some people who aren't on restricted diets spend a ton more than we do on groceries. We try our best to keep it reasonable.

Some tips that help:

Buy all natural or organic meats but wait for good sales, buy in bulk, and don't be stuck on premium cuts of meat. With a diet like this you should no longer fear fat. Without as many carbs, fat is your friend

Use all the meat ! a whole chicken can be roasted for one meal, leftover meat makes great chicken salad, and then you can place everything leftover in a crockpot and cover with water and let is stew for a few days. That can be a great stock to throw in some ingredients and create a soup

I don't try to replace carbs with like ones for every meal. We aren't eating almond bread sandwiches everyday for lunch and almond bread muffins for breakfast. Almond flour is expensive. We use it as a treat and in moderation.

Buy almond flour in bulk and freeze it. Blanched Almond flour is $11 a pound at my local grocer, but I got it for less than $5 a pound (shipping included) from www.honeyville.com I have heard that nuts.com is similar. Honeyville sends out coupon codes for 15% off. Go to their website and sign up for their email list and they will email you coupons occasionally. This helps.

Do you have a local warehouse store like Sam's or Costco? Consider pricing out the fruits and veggies you eat alot of and buying them there. You will be eating alot more fruits and veggies so you will no longer need to fear buying a large bag of bell peppers or apples.

Homemade Olive oil mayo is awesome. We flavor it many different ways to create all kinds of sauces. Buy a larger container of light tasting olive oil at Sam's or Costco and you will save $$ on it.

I really think that most families who eat out alot or buy prepackaged foods can eat this way for no more $$$.
01-07-2013, 02:05 PM   #56
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You guys have Costco in the US? We just went to our Costco here and found that while certain things like honey. But I found almonds cheaper at the bulk barn and between grocery stores, one of them is likely to have sales on meat that compare to Costco. One thing I noticed is that if you buy California almonds, they are signifcantly cheaper than other almonds. The key is to shop around instead of buying the first thing you see.

Also, like Charleigh said you can get used to buying fruits in vegetables in bulk and you WILL save money and you WILL use all of them before they go bad. You can even freeze some and they taste great in smoothies. We used to buy small bunches of fruits but learned that you can almost always find signifcantly larger sized bunches of fruits for 1 or 2 dollars more than a small amount.

I'm feeling much better today and will upload some pics from my meals when I go on the computer.
01-07-2013, 06:52 PM   #57
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Day 6, January 7th.
As I said above, I woke up feeling much better today. I weighed myself today and was down to 154.4 lbs however but right now I'm placing that on the fact that I didn't very much yesterday and felt like crap. I've got my coffee all down pat now with how much nut milk and honey to use.

I slept in today because I went to bed feeling crappy last night so I had more of a brunch again.
Brunch: Big piece of fried ham, two sliced of almond bread with peanut butter, strawberries, candied pecans. I didn't take a picture basically because I have pics of everything I ate already so I didn't think it would be necessary to have two of the same pictures.

Dinner: We found an awesome recipe for cheesy garlic bread (made with cauliflower) and WOW! it was delicious! We had that with lemon dill chicken breasts. Unfortunately the "bread" ended up taking longer than expected so we had to eat the chicken first so I didn't take a picture of it because we all know what a chicken looks like lol.

I'm just going to go ahead and post the recipe now for the garlic bread because I have a feeling others will be asking for it. You can't even taste the cauliflower this way and I thought it was actually comparable to a cheesy bread you would find in a fancy Italian restaurant.


Here's the recipe. http://whatsfordinner-momwhatsfordin...ad-sticks.html
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That looks so yum! We haven't tried cheese on E yet, but he has been asking and I think we might try soon. I will definitely try this if cheese checks out okay.
01-07-2013, 11:01 PM   #59
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Charleigh, perhaps you might like to try some goats milk cheese. Some people find it easier to cope with than cows milk cheese. Unfortunately it is more expensive.
01-08-2013, 06:22 PM   #60
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Day 7, January 6th.
Today marks one week on the diet!

I woke up today feeling great! Today was my first day back to school for the winter term so I haven't had a complete meal yet. I've brought a TON of snacks to school like fruits/veggies, nuts, 2 smoothies, and some new macaroons Mariah made me. I'll probably have some dinner when I get home tonight.

I still have loose bowel movements, but the frequency is down to 1-3 times a day and it's been a few days since I woke up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom!

The cravings/withdrawals have really start to hit me. I would walk miles barefoot in the snow right now for even the lowest quality chocolate available. Pastas and rice, and also pop I haven't really missed yet. Being my first day back for the semester, I'll have to get used to seeing people walking around with their bag of chips and other snacks.

My headache has gone but my ears still have the ringing in them. Regardless, I'm feeling much better!
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