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10-02-2013, 11:24 AM   #1
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SCD vs Google -- mixed answers

Hi guys Ive been diagnosed with crohns recently, also have an anal fistula, and anal leakage every single day.

Everyone seems to love the SCD diet so i bought the book (waiting for shipping) and Im excited but before I knew anything about SCD I did a bunch of google searches and made a list of do's and dont's

Basically the list I made said No to the following foods, tomato, fiber, corn, beans, stringy vegetables(celery and broccoli), apples (unless their are skinned), and Broccoli.

But the SCD legal / illegal list says apples are OK (says nothing about the skin), says broccoli is ok, and says tomatoes are ok.

Im confused at the moment and dont know what to do. I guess I cant have the apple skin or broccoli due to its fiber (apparently I need to be on a low fiber diet ) -- but this contradicts what the book says...


Sigh, Looking for some clarity
10-02-2013, 06:31 PM   #2
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foodRunner - u are taking the right steps and asking the right question.
the whole SCD concept is quite confusing at the begining - but after a while - gets clearer.
would suggest the following -
1. Read the book
2. Start with introduction diet. Dont skip it.
3. Would even suggest to follow GAPS intro diet protocol (GAPS and SCD are very very similar)
4. Key is to stabilize and slowly add foods - as per the guidance in the books (clearer in GAPS) or u can get valuable info of the diferent stages under pecanbread.com

good luck!
10-02-2013, 08:44 PM   #3
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scooby100 is right.

SCD may not be 100% right for you straight out of the box.
I did much better on Paleo (no yogurt and higher (safe) carb intake)b - which makes me think it's as much (more?) about toxins than carbs

you should find that many foods you can't eat now will be ok after some healing has taken place
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10-10-2013, 07:34 AM   #4
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E didn't do very good on SCD until I altered it to the point where it was paleo. Now, altering even the paleo diet to the auto-immune paleo diet has E at a pretty awesome place

I think you need to be willing to tweak.
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10-19-2013, 07:39 PM   #5
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If you look up crohns diet you see that avocados are fine, so is white rice.

But scd says rice is a no no. And doesn't avocados have fiber? arent crohns people supposed to have a low fiber ?
10-19-2013, 08:59 PM   #6
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SCD means the 'Specific Carbohydrate Diet'

"The Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) is a group of foods which are grain-free, sugar-free, starch-free, and unprocessed."[1]

"The diets guidelines are based on the fact that not everyone’s digestive tract has evolved to optimally digest complex carbohydrates and other man made food products like sugar. The main principle of the diet is that carbohydrates are classified by their chemical structure; they are monosaccharide, disaccharide, or polysaccharide. On the diet only monosaccharide carbohydrates are allowed to be eaten as all others require extra digestion steps to break the chemical bonds down to monosaccharide carbohydrates."[1]

While on SCD the idea is to limit complex carbs to stop feeding the harmful bacteria that are destroying the lining of your intestines [2].
-(whether on not the bacteria are causing the disease (as SCD believes), or whether the disease causes a disruption to bacteria doesn't really matter, it has benefits either way)

Things like white rice are definitely not 'Legal', they are however tolerated and not toxic for someone who is healthy.
They may be ok for occasional use (and are absolutely to be preferred over gluten grains in particular, but all other grains generally) but are not allowed in an SCD diet.

Fibre is not recommended by some diets , but is fine when it is tolerated, so the SCD diet has a recommended introduction diet and a progression of food introduction to aide the healing process. [3]

White rice is one of the recommended starches in the "Perfect Health Diet"[4], which is a wonderfully balanced diet that should be excellent for people who crave carbs, but has some additional recommendations for IBD [5]

The SCD diet is a set of rules, many people modify it to suit themselves (for better or worse)


[1] http://scdlifestyle.com/about-the-scd-diet/ - this has everything you need
[2] http://pecanbread.com/p/scdscience2.html
[3] http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i...he-intro-diet/
[4] http://perfecthealthdiet.com/the-diet/
[5] http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/07...g-gut-disease/

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10-19-2013, 09:35 PM   #7
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Thanks very much! Where can I find the list of foods that are progressively added you mentioned in [3]
10-19-2013, 09:53 PM   #8
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Where can I find the list of foods that are progressively added you mentioned in [3]
this one has a list
http://pecanbread.com/p/how/stages.html

and some intro recipes
http://www.scdandme.com/intro-diet/
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