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11-14-2014, 04:29 PM   #1
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Increased IBD symptoms from certain vegetables? glyphosate?

i recently switched to a different source of vegetable because my local grocery was temporarily out of stock. I experienced a dramatic increase in IBD symptoms and Im trying to explain why. I believe it has to do with the herbicide/pesticides that are on or in the veggies, such as glyphosate used in roundup. Although there is no way i can definitively prove this is the reason, I changed to fresh cauliflower rather then my usual frozen cauliflower, and neither was specified as organic. I did not wash the fresh cauliflower either before i cooked it, it was the fresh cauliflower that seemed to increase my IBD symptoms, which may have had some chemcal on it that the frozen veggies didnt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate

Has anyone else experienced something similar? When I went back to my normal regimen everything stabilized, and this was not the usual flare either the nature of the bowel movements were quite different. I follow a very strict diet so i can usually identify what a food does to my body very easily. I suppose this would just be a warning to the IBD community.


I have had a similar experience when changing brands of wheat. I make my own bread products using gold medal whole wheat flour, then i switched to king arthur brand which is organic, but all my symptoms became worse, so I was a devoted consumer of gold medal ever since. something is terribly wrong with our food supply.
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11-14-2014, 10:28 PM   #2
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Curr Microbiol. 2013 Apr;66(4):350-8. doi: 10.1007/s00284-012-0277-2. Epub 2012 Dec 9.
The effect of glyphosate on potential pathogens and beneficial members of poultry microbiota in vitro.


Abstract
The use of glyphosate modifies the environment which stresses the living microorganisms. The aim of the present study was to determine the real impact of glyphosate on potential pathogens and beneficial members of poultry microbiota in vitro. The presented results evidence that the highly pathogenic bacteria as Salmonella Entritidis, Salmonella Gallinarum, Salmonella Typhimurium, Clostridium perfringens and Clostridium botulinum are highly resistant to glyphosate. However, most of beneficial bacteria as Enterococcus faecalis, Enterococcus faecium, Bacillus badius, Bifidobacterium adolescentis and Lactobacillus spp. were found to be moderate to highly susceptible. Also Campylobacter spp. were found to be susceptible to glyphosate. A reduction of beneficial bacteria in the gastrointestinal tract microbiota by ingestion of glyphosate could disturb the normal gut bacterial community. Also, the toxicity of glyphosate to the most prevalent Enterococcus spp. could be a significant predisposing factor that is associated with the increase in C. botulinum-mediated diseases by suppressing the antagonistic effect of these bacteria on clostridia.
11-26-2014, 09:11 AM   #3
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Could it be Glyphosate? Sure. But there are a whole host of other pesticides used on conventional produce I suspect even more in the pathogenesis of Crohn's disease, especially organophosphates and carbamates.

For example, here are the digestive symptoms of acute organophosphate poisoning:

Abdominal cramps
Diarrhea
Loss of appetite
Nausea
Vomiting

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/002832.htm

Big chemical and Ag will of course say the dose is too low to cause issue. However, study after study have shown issues with chronic low exposure. Examples:
- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21507776
- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21507778
- http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/1003160/
- http://pediatrics.aappublications.or....full.pdf+html
- http://news.yahoo.com/study-links-pe...123742370.html

Paraoxanase (PON1) is the enzyme that is important in breaking down organophosphates in the human body - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21864557

Guess what subset of people have decreased PON1 activity? If you're reading this, you're probably part of that subset: http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jl/2012/587479/
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