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mwb3779 · 12-25-2009, 08:25 PM

I have had pretty bad butt pain recently. It sometimes feels like its being grabbed from the inside. It grabs for a min then lets go. It really sucks when it happens because I end up squeezing my eyes shut to try and stop the pain. Then my eyes start to hurt. My BMs are sometimes pretty painful too.

I discovered a new bump thats pretty sore to touch but its kinda like an on /off switch. Sometimes it hurts really bad, sometimes not so much. I've hemaroids before, but I'm not sure. Its not like any roids I've had before. Any ideas on what it could be. I have had some blood on the tissue, but I have an ulcer at the end of my colon. I've had that for a while. Doctor said that will be normal for a while until it gets better. Just fo back in if there's a lot of blood.

Does anyone else have those types of butt pain?

I'm curious though about the on/ off thing. Its weird.

It really sucks today because its kinda holding me down. I'm about to take my oxycodone, so I can try and eat dinner with my family.

Merry Christmas!

imisspopcorn · 12-25-2009, 08:41 PM

Hey Mike...It sounds like an abscess....Can you feel a bump/knot like area? I have not had one, but that is the first thing that came to my mind. Maybe Googgle rectal abscess signs and symptoms and see if it sounds similar. I'm just guessing so take what I have written for what it's worth.....I hope you feel better.

shazamataz · 12-25-2009, 08:55 PM

Sounds yucky Mike! Sorry I can't help, but I hope you get it sorted!

Peaches · 12-25-2009, 10:55 PM

I'm with Pop sweety - sounds like you may need to wish your GI Happy New Year in person and have that checked as it sounds like an abscess. Sorry :O(

mwb3779 · 12-25-2009, 11:14 PM

I just read about what an abscess is.......

I don't want one of those. I really don't.

shazamataz · 12-25-2009, 11:28 PM

Hope it's not an abscess Mike! Fingers crossed its a hemmeroid or something?

mwb3779 · 12-25-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shazamataz

Hope it's not an abscess Mike! Fingers crossed its a hemmeroid or something?

Me too...

imisspopcorn · 12-26-2009, 01:49 AM

I've had neither....Sorry man. Did the Google description make you think that it could possibly be an abscess???

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 04:49 AM

Yeah, unfortunately.

shazamataz · 12-26-2009, 05:16 AM

Oooh, get it checked out ASAP Mike! You will need antibiotics if it is. Urgh!

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 05:27 AM

It sounds though if I have one the pain would remain a pretty constant. That's the weird thing, it doesn't hurt all the time?

shazamataz · 12-26-2009, 06:10 AM

I dunno, when I had mine (it was internal though) I had a constant dull kind of pain but also got the odd sharp stabbing pain. However i had narrowing as well so it could have been that. Do you have a fever at all? That can be a sign of infection. Definately get it checked Mike - we don;t want you getting any sicker!
Oooh, have you had a look? I know it's gross but get a mirror and see if you can see anything, that may give you a better idea?

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 06:37 AM

I'll have checked it out. Sometimes I get a fever out of nowhere. It looks like a little bump.

beth · 12-26-2009, 08:55 AM

Sounds very much like a perianal abscess. A dose of augmentin/metronidazol/ciprofloxacin may well make it go away for now, but it'll be back. Can you still sit down...
Getting it checked out is a Good Plan.

12-26-2009, 05:15 PM

Sounds like an abscess to me--don't fool around with those, my Dad had to have emergency surgery a few years ago to remove one so the infection didn't spread. I have never had one myself, but have had perianal fistulas which required surgery. Post surgery actually wasn't so bad--healed quickly and pain went away almost instantly.

I asked my Dad and he said the reason he didn't go to the doc quicker is that the pain was NOT constant--would come and go and was worse with bowel movements. He said a warm hot bath helped with the pain but eventually he couldn't handle it and went to the ER where they removed it. He has healed from the surgery with no complications and now watches out for symptoms like he had more intently.

Not to scare you, but I think you should take your symptoms seriously just in case it is an infection. Do you have swollen or sore lymph nodes in the groin area? He didn't have a fever (remarkably) but complained of tender lymph nodes and an overall ill feeling.

Take care of yourself and hopefully this will get better soon!

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beth

Sounds very much like a perianal abscess. A dose of augmentin/metronidazol/ciprofloxacin may well make it go away for now, but it'll be back. Can you still sit down...
Getting it checked out is a Good Plan.

I'm not sure what those drugs do? I've heard of cipro. I can still sit, after awhile though its gets pretty uncomfortable. Sometimes its better when I lay on my side. It really is a hard thing to describe.

Peaches · 12-26-2009, 07:19 PM

They are all antibiotics used to treat abscesses and fistulas (for us Crohnies - other stuff for the "normal" people). I bet you'd feel much better with some of that on board right now!! Hope you call Monday and let the doctor do a booty check on you buddy!

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uab grad student

Sounds like an abscess to me--don't fool around with those, my Dad had to have emergency surgery a few years ago to remove one so the infection didn't spread. I have never had one myself, but have had perianal fistulas which required surgery. Post surgery actually wasn't so bad--healed quickly and pain went away almost instantly.

I asked my Dad and he said the reason he didn't go to the doc quicker is that the pain was NOT constant--would come and go and was worse with bowel movements. He said a warm hot bath helped with the pain but eventually he couldn't handle it and went to the ER where they removed it. He has healed from the surgery with no complications and now watches out for symptoms like he had more intently.

Not to scare you, but I think you should take your symptoms seriously just in case it is an infection. Do you have swollen or sore lymph nodes in the groin area? He didn't have a fever (remarkably) but complained of tender lymph nodes and an overall ill feeling.

Take care of yourself and hopefully this will get better soon!

What type of infection? I'll have to check out where the lymph nodes are in that area. Yes to an overall ill feeling. But I've had that for months, since dx. Could those kind of things get into my throat. I've had a sore throat for a couple weeks. Dr gave me anti-biotics. It doesn't hurt nearly like it did before going to the dr. Now it just feels like its got a bunch of stuff in there.

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

They are all antibiotics used to treat abscesses and fistulas (for us Crohnies - other stuff for the "normal" people). I bet you'd feel much better with some of that on board right now!! Hope you call Monday and let the doctor do a booty check on you buddy!

Any idea on the cost of them? I don't have insurance anymore. I only have a little state assistance for general dr visits and prescriptions.

beth · 12-26-2009, 07:22 PM

They are all antibiotics. They'll make the bacterial infection in the abscess go away, but the tract will probably not heal from the inside to the source, so it leaves a pocket of infection to fester.

The bit about sitting down is because when I've had an abscess it was pretty hard to sit down for long. Sitting to one side would ease the pain for a bit.

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beth

They are all antibiotics. They'll make the bacterial infection in the abscess go away, but the tract will probably not heal from the inside to the source, so it leaves a pocket of infection to fester.

The bit about sitting down is because when I've had an abscess it was pretty hard to sit down for long. Sitting to one side would ease the pain for a bit.

Pills or IV?

Peaches · 12-26-2009, 07:24 PM

No, I haven't had to be on any of them in quite some time - although I always look to see how much things are when I pay my copay. Seems like the Cipro was quite a bit, that was the one I used to take chronically. You could probably get generic of the Aug. and the Metro. Do you have a local public clinic anywhere near you? Sometimes they can fill your scripts for very cheaply if they are generics.

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 07:29 PM

Thanks

shazamataz · 12-26-2009, 09:07 PM

I hope you get it sorted Mike. I understand there is a money concern there because of the insurance issue. Don't want a nasty abscess getting worse though?
Maybe it's just a boil or something? An ingrown hair? I get those occasionally. That would be easily fixed?!

mwb3779 · 12-26-2009, 09:09 PM

Who knows? We'll see.

smurphy0925 · 12-27-2009, 02:53 AM

Mike- I have been having the same kind of pain. Comes and goes, throbbing, pulling the towel rack off the wall kind of pain. Clentch my teeth and tears streaming down my face. It was only a little better after leaning or laying on my side for a couple of hours. I thought for sure I had an abcess. But when I saw the docs physician assistant, she said it was a nasty hemrroid and lots of irritation and give me a prescription for suppositories and samples of calmoseptine. Its a little better. At least it hasn't woken me up for two nights in a row. Yea !

mwb3779 · 12-27-2009, 04:25 AM

That's good news Smurphy! I hope that's the same thing I get when I go to the dr. Did the calmoseptine help? I was looking into getting some. I wonder.....?

imisspopcorn · 12-27-2009, 04:40 AM

Yes Mike get the Calmoseptine...No matter what, you won't be sorry you have it...When do you see the doctor?

mwb3779 · 12-27-2009, 04:53 AM

Anything I need to know about that stuff? Any tips or anything?

Next scheduled appt is in Feb. I am going to try and get another one earlier after the holidays.

imisspopcorn · 12-27-2009, 06:09 AM

Apply it with a baby wipe or wet TP because it sticks.... You'll end with TP bits stuck to your bum...I used it on a bug bite on my son, and it is hard to get off your fingers...That's why it is so great. It makes a barrier, better than any Star Wars defense sheild...(cue Star Wars theme music now)

12-25-2009, 08:25 PM	#1
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	Butt pain and a new bump? I have had pretty bad butt pain recently. It sometimes feels like its being grabbed from the inside. It grabs for a min then lets go. It really sucks when it happens because I end up squeezing my eyes shut to try and stop the pain. Then my eyes start to hurt. My BMs are sometimes pretty painful too. I discovered a new bump thats pretty sore to touch but its kinda like an on /off switch. Sometimes it hurts really bad, sometimes not so much. I've hemaroids before, but I'm not sure. Its not like any roids I've had before. Any ideas on what it could be. I have had some blood on the tissue, but I have an ulcer at the end of my colon. I've had that for a while. Doctor said that will be normal for a while until it gets better. Just fo back in if there's a lot of blood. Does anyone else have those types of butt pain? I'm curious though about the on/ off thing. Its weird. It really sucks today because its kinda holding me down. I'm about to take my oxycodone, so I can try and eat dinner with my family. Merry Christmas! __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-25-2009, 08:41 PM	#2
imisspopcorn Punctuation Impaired Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,945	Hey Mike...It sounds like an abscess....Can you feel a bump/knot like area? I have not had one, but that is the first thing that came to my mind. Maybe Googgle rectal abscess signs and symptoms and see if it sounds similar. I'm just guessing so take what I have written for what it's worth.....I hope you feel better. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~* Instead of hiding in the darkness of a grey cloud, why not look for the silver lining? Last edited by imisspopcorn; 12-26-2009 at 01:46 AM.

12-25-2009, 08:55 PM	#3
shazamataz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand, Dunedin Posts: 3,672	Sounds yucky Mike! Sorry I can't help, but I hope you get it sorted! __________________ Farting is FUN

12-25-2009, 11:14 PM	#5
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	I just read about what an abscess is....... I don't want one of those. I really don't. __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-25-2009, 11:28 PM	#6
shazamataz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand, Dunedin Posts: 3,672	Hope it's not an abscess Mike! Fingers crossed its a hemmeroid or something? __________________ Farting is FUN

12-25-2009, 10:55 PM	#4
Peaches Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,994	I'm with Pop sweety - sounds like you may need to wish your GI Happy New Year in person and have that checked as it sounds like an abscess. Sorry :O(

12-26-2009, 01:49 AM	#8
imisspopcorn Punctuation Impaired Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,945	I've had neither....Sorry man. Did the Google description make you think that it could possibly be an abscess??? __________________ ~~~~~~~~~* Instead of hiding in the darkness of a grey cloud, why not look for the silver lining?

12-26-2009, 04:49 AM	#9
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	Yeah, unfortunately. __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-26-2009, 05:16 AM	#10
shazamataz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand, Dunedin Posts: 3,672	Oooh, get it checked out ASAP Mike! You will need antibiotics if it is. Urgh! __________________ Farting is FUN

12-26-2009, 05:27 AM	#11
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	It sounds though if I have one the pain would remain a pretty constant. That's the weird thing, it doesn't hurt all the time? __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-26-2009, 06:10 AM	#12
shazamataz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand, Dunedin Posts: 3,672	I dunno, when I had mine (it was internal though) I had a constant dull kind of pain but also got the odd sharp stabbing pain. However i had narrowing as well so it could have been that. Do you have a fever at all? That can be a sign of infection. Definately get it checked Mike - we don;t want you getting any sicker! Oooh, have you had a look? I know it's gross but get a mirror and see if you can see anything, that may give you a better idea? __________________ Farting is FUN

12-26-2009, 06:37 AM	#13
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	I'll have checked it out. Sometimes I get a fever out of nowhere. It looks like a little bump. __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-26-2009, 08:55 AM	#14
beth Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 881	Sounds very much like a perianal abscess. A dose of augmentin/metronidazol/ciprofloxacin may well make it go away for now, but it'll be back. Can you still sit down... Getting it checked out is a Good Plan. __________________ Diagnosed Jan 09 Elemental 028 - 3 weeks of hell Azathioprine/6MP/methotrexate - not tolerated. 3 EUA's fistula + seton. then -seton +fibrin Humira junkie since Dec 09

12-26-2009, 05:15 PM	#15
uab grad student Guest Posts: n/a	Sounds like an abscess to me--don't fool around with those, my Dad had to have emergency surgery a few years ago to remove one so the infection didn't spread. I have never had one myself, but have had perianal fistulas which required surgery. Post surgery actually wasn't so bad--healed quickly and pain went away almost instantly. I asked my Dad and he said the reason he didn't go to the doc quicker is that the pain was NOT constant--would come and go and was worse with bowel movements. He said a warm hot bath helped with the pain but eventually he couldn't handle it and went to the ER where they removed it. He has healed from the surgery with no complications and now watches out for symptoms like he had more intently. Not to scare you, but I think you should take your symptoms seriously just in case it is an infection. Do you have swollen or sore lymph nodes in the groin area? He didn't have a fever (remarkably) but complained of tender lymph nodes and an overall ill feeling. Take care of yourself and hopefully this will get better soon!

12-26-2009, 07:19 PM	#17
Peaches Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,994	They are all antibiotics used to treat abscesses and fistulas (for us Crohnies - other stuff for the "normal" people). I bet you'd feel much better with some of that on board right now!! Hope you call Monday and let the doctor do a booty check on you buddy!

12-26-2009, 07:22 PM	#20
beth Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 881	They are all antibiotics. They'll make the bacterial infection in the abscess go away, but the tract will probably not heal from the inside to the source, so it leaves a pocket of infection to fester. The bit about sitting down is because when I've had an abscess it was pretty hard to sit down for long. Sitting to one side would ease the pain for a bit. __________________ Diagnosed Jan 09 Elemental 028 - 3 weeks of hell Azathioprine/6MP/methotrexate - not tolerated. 3 EUA's fistula + seton. then -seton +fibrin Humira junkie since Dec 09

12-26-2009, 07:24 PM	#22
Peaches Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,994	No, I haven't had to be on any of them in quite some time - although I always look to see how much things are when I pay my copay. Seems like the Cipro was quite a bit, that was the one I used to take chronically. You could probably get generic of the Aug. and the Metro. Do you have a local public clinic anywhere near you? Sometimes they can fill your scripts for very cheaply if they are generics.

12-26-2009, 07:29 PM	#23
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	Thanks __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-26-2009, 09:07 PM	#24
shazamataz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand, Dunedin Posts: 3,672	I hope you get it sorted Mike. I understand there is a money concern there because of the insurance issue. Don't want a nasty abscess getting worse though? Maybe it's just a boil or something? An ingrown hair? I get those occasionally. That would be easily fixed?! __________________ Farting is FUN

12-26-2009, 09:09 PM	#25
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	Who knows? We'll see. __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-27-2009, 02:53 AM	#26
smurphy0925 New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 23	Mike- I have been having the same kind of pain. Comes and goes, throbbing, pulling the towel rack off the wall kind of pain. Clentch my teeth and tears streaming down my face. It was only a little better after leaning or laying on my side for a couple of hours. I thought for sure I had an abcess. But when I saw the docs physician assistant, she said it was a nasty hemrroid and lots of irritation and give me a prescription for suppositories and samples of calmoseptine. Its a little better. At least it hasn't woken me up for two nights in a row. Yea ! __________________ Smurph ____________________________________________ Diagnosed with appendix cancer that grew into my colon October 1998. Diagnosed with Crohns December 1998 when trying to get through chemo Diagnosed with ITP (Low platelet count) Sept 2007 Diagonosed with breast cancer September 2009 Nasty flare right now. Joined the Humira Club 12/24/09 This too shall pass. Meds: Imuran, Pentasa, Pred taper, Vitamin D3, Allegra, Levothroid & Humira

12-27-2009, 04:25 AM	#27
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	That's good news Smurphy! I hope that's the same thing I get when I go to the dr. Did the calmoseptine help? I was looking into getting some. I wonder.....? __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-27-2009, 04:40 AM	#28
imisspopcorn Punctuation Impaired Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,945	Yes Mike get the Calmoseptine...No matter what, you won't be sorry you have it...When do you see the doctor? __________________ ~~~~~~~~~* Instead of hiding in the darkness of a grey cloud, why not look for the silver lining?

12-27-2009, 04:53 AM	#29
mwb3779 Kitchenhawk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,516	Anything I need to know about that stuff? Any tips or anything? Next scheduled appt is in Feb. I am going to try and get another one earlier after the holidays. __________________ Mike Active Crohn's since October 2009, Diabetic since October 2007 Current: Asacol, 6 mp, Prilosec, Oxycodone/ Lortab/ Vicodin, Zolpidem, Fluoxetine, Trazadone, Glipizide, Prednisone No surgeries........ yet. W.C.C.....Charter member "Big People are Harder to Kidnap"

12-27-2009, 06:09 AM	#30
imisspopcorn Punctuation Impaired Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,945	Apply it with a baby wipe or wet TP because it sticks.... You'll end with TP bits stuck to your bum...I used it on a bug bite on my son, and it is hard to get off your fingers...That's why it is so great. It makes a barrier, better than any Star Wars defense sheild...(cue Star Wars theme music now) __________________ ~~~~~~~~~* Instead of hiding in the darkness of a grey cloud, why not look for the silver lining?