My spidey sense is picking up a hint of sarcasm?, perhaps with a touch of hostility?
Never mind, might be the diet deprivation grumps.........
Sounds like you are not rushing into anything foolishly but I will try to clarify and leave you to your experiment
he suggested it because he knows my symptoms are made worse by certain foods and we need to pinpoint which one as it might have caused this massive flare-up. Don't think he's some kind of hack doctor, he actually knows what he's doing............ so he's suggested this diet to try and see if there's an improvement. Previous elimination experiments, usually with just one or two foods, have been successful so this is just another one of them as far as I'm concerned. Hey, if it makes me feel better I'm all for it.
Don't know how you look at it, but as I see it going vegan is only eliminating three foods -meat, eggs and dairy. Eggs and dairy are well known to be problematic, and meat sometimes but digestive enzymes often solve that.
A well thought out elimination diet would remove
everything that might be likely to cause a problem, especially the foods most likely to cause problems (gluten, soy, dairy, eggs, chemicals (processed foods)) rather than picking one thing at random (i'm just going by the post, if there is more logic to it than you have shared so far, please let us know). There are interactions and cascades going on.
Eliminating a couple of foods doesn't give as clear a picture as a complete elimination diet
Really? I thought it was just a tummy ache? /sarcasm/ - sorry it's early and I need more coffee..
For a while there coffee was instant diarrhoea for me (have coffee, look for toilet, and start heading there). I kept drinking it, but I don't think it helped
The reason for trying this diet is to see if the pain goes away because there IS probably some kind of reaction to some food somewhere and we need to find out what. We don't know. That's why we're trying it. As for the 'coarse' food sliding down, I don't eat much that could be described as 'coarse' and I still get the pain when I have stuff like soups or yoghurt so... that doesn't seem likely.
My point was, if you eat something and it hurts/cramps/squirts/whatever, it is telling you that you are not digesting that food well, but it does not tell you anything about why you are not digesting that food well.
Possible, but how come I have never, ever had an issue after eating junk food? Ever? Surely if there's a bacterial imbalance it would cause symptoms? Your previous paragraph indicates the bacteria would 'party' on certain foods and being as 'junk food' is full of carbs and associated crap then I should be experiencing problems.
Your not reading what i'm writing. If someone is, say, lactose intolerant then they cannot digest lactose, maybe lactase production has been impaired, maybe they have SIBO, so it will be digested by bacteria which creates gas, bloating, cramps. It is a symptom of the problem, not the problem.
The FODMAP diet identifies 4 categories of fermentable carbohydrates (Fermentable Oligosaccharides, Disaccharides, Monosaccharides and Polyols) and steers you towards foods that are low in these carbs, then they are regularly reintroduced and tested to see if they are tolerated
Might be trying a gluten free diet after this, so we'll see
Worth a go but "one thing at a time elimination" is the least effective way to do it.
I'm fully aware of this. I'm actually an intelligent person who has done her research. Plus Doritos are grim. Seriously how do people even eat those?
Glad to hear it, but half the population is below average intelligence so don't be offended just because you are on the higher side, Vegan is a very broad term, there is very little overlap between a raw vegan and a grainatarian
Which I don't each much of. I make my own bread and eat very few processed foods. White pasta, white rice etc are processed, I know, but apart from those my diet is pretty unprocessed.
Beard and pasta is enough, maybe on the next elimination they will be ditched. White rice is (to my way of thinking) a good food if all is well but may feed an overgrowth if it is already present
If it works, it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't. Simple as that. I'm 35 and too old to be buying into fads, I did that when I was about eighteen.
good attitude, a willingness to try things and evaluate results
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Real' meat? What do you mean by 'real' meat? If you mean organic/free range there's not much difference in flavour, just the price and a nice sanctimonious feeling when you buy it that you've bought a cut of meat from a 'happy' animal that was happy right up to the point you stuck a bolt through it's brain.
Hmmmm, where to start?
-On the farm?
If you can't tell the difference in cruelty and welfare between a pastured animal and a CAFO then I have serious doubts about which side of average you fall on.
The difference between killing and animal, and torturing it's whole life and then killing it is pretty obvious. The difference between eating a healthy animal and a sick animal?
Feeding cows ground up chickens (that were fed ground up cows)?
The difference in fatty acid profiles (grain fed has higher omega-6 than grass fed and it has been shown to be inflammatory), pesticides, antibiotics, stress, not to mention environmental degradation (cow shit enriches soil so grass can grow, some farmers like Joel Salatin have taken this to a higher level). Cafo relies on fossil fuels every step of the way, to make fertiliser, grow grain, transport grain, and lakes of shit that the cows are knee deep in and can't be used because it is so toxic.
The increased rate of foodbourne illness?
And its worse for chickens and farmed fish
-In the processing?
I buy a whole lamb at a time, It comes from an abattoir so I don't know too much about it except that is is grass fed and lived in a field.
I get the whole animal cut up and it goes in the freezer to keep the price down. It is not organic.
I get some of it minced
If I went to the supermarket and bought mince it could be from as many as 100 different animals, if I bought a hamburger from a fast food chain it could be a mixture of 1000 animals. At this level of processing, they just about shove the whole animal into a huge grinder, with huge amounts of faeces mixed in.
In a processed meal, did the meat come from china?, irish horses?, floor sweepings?
Did your butcher glue offcuts together with 'meat glue'
Is that hamburger less than 50% filler?
I'll go with the 'sanctimonious' feeling of knowing that on every level including taste, it is a superior product and better for me and the planet.
Having said that, it would be one of the latter changes that I would make if I had to do it all again. Far less beneficial (for me) than getting my carbs in order
If you are interested and still feel a need after your Vegan adventure you might want to check out some other diets,
Most people don't seem to realise it but SCD and GAPS are elimination diets (when done according to the instructions), FODMAPS is an elimination diet, and so too is my personal 'shit, that looks hard' favourite, the Paleo AI protocol
Wishing you all the best.
