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08-04-2013, 10:06 AM   #1
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What to take for pain

I was just diagnosed on Friday with UC but am waiting on biopsy result. Dr who did colonoscopy just told me to contact my dr for all results. In the meantime what over the counter pain pill can I take? I am in Canada, anyone try Advil?

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08-04-2013, 04:21 PM   #2
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I'm sure you will discuss Inflammatory Bowel Disease medication with your doctor shortly to ensure you put your UC in control.

As for OTC pills we are limited to Tylenol or your doctor can prescribe a non NSAID. NSAIDs increase risk in crohn's and UC and are not safe.

"while NSAIDs dampen the cycle of inflammation and pain, they also cause the digestive system to lose some of its normal protective substances. This could create more problems for people who already have inflammation, or the potential for inflammation, in their digestive tract.

Even in people without IBD, NSAIDs can contribute to ulcers in both the stomach and the first part of the small intestine (duodenum). NSAIDs can cause inflammation and worsen bleeding in the small intestine. Some digestive specialists are concerned that NSAIDs can cause IBD to come out of remission."
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08-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #3
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Really? We shouldn't take ibuprofen or aspirin? My GI doc never said anything to me about that!
08-04-2013, 05:50 PM   #4
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It wouldn't be wise to do so mama. There is a lot of research out there showing the dangers for those of us with crohn's http://www.crohnsforum.com/wiki/NSAIDs
08-04-2013, 06:33 PM   #5
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Tylenol is about it for over-the-counter meds. Codeine, hydrocodone, and other narcotic types are okay, but no Advil, Motrin, aspirin, etc.
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08-04-2013, 06:40 PM   #6
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Thanks so much for this info. Very happy to have you all!
08-04-2013, 06:48 PM   #7
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Berley, I recommend reading "Crohn's & Colitis for Dummies" It really helped inform me before my visit with mu GI. It specifically talked about tylenol versus advil (really sux, tylenol does nothing for me). That book gave me a really good overview of the whole u/c situation that I am living in.
08-04-2013, 07:00 PM   #8
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Tylenol does nothing for me either. Cutting back on caffeine can help.
08-04-2013, 08:24 PM   #9
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I'm glad to know this. I often take Excedrin for migraines when I run out of my rx.
08-05-2013, 03:23 PM   #10
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Hey Berley! Welcome to CF!

For over the counter options, Tylenol (acetaminophen) is the only option. Crohn's or UC patients cannot take Ibuprofen, the risks for us is simply too high.

I've been using cannabis to manage my pain successfully for a year now. You can check out the MMJ forum for options on consuming it more responsibly (through vaporization, or cooking) than smoking it.

For pain relief, I really couldn't live without it. When I vaporize, it takes care of the pain IMMEDIATELY. Not in 30 minutes, a few hours. SECONDS. Almost instantly.

If you are in chronic pain and have access to MMJ, I suggest you give it a try.

Otherwise, you will need to ask for pain meds from your GI, and you'll have to use them very sparingly.
08-06-2013, 05:57 AM   #11
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My GI told me that relafen (generic: nabumetone) is OK. It's an NSAID, but relatively gentle on the stomach compared with others. I don't take it regularly -- just as needed for the various aches and pains I get from running.

It's available by prescription in the US -- not sure in other places?
08-06-2013, 07:49 AM   #12
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I agree with Francis; cannabis is excellent for pain and has an instant effect. If you're uncomfortable inhaling it, you can ask your doctor for a prescription for Marinol and take as a pill.
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08-06-2013, 09:34 AM   #13
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I agree with Francis; cannabis is excellent for pain and has an instant effect. If you're uncomfortable inhaling it, you can ask your doctor for a prescription for Marinol and take as a pill.
Is this nation wide or just certain states?
08-06-2013, 10:06 AM   #14
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Is this nation wide or just certain states?
Each state has their own Medical Marijuana laws. I believe that Marinol is legal in all states since it is an FDA approved drug and is prescribed by a medical doctor.
08-06-2013, 11:25 AM   #15
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What exactly is inhalation through vapor?
08-06-2013, 11:55 AM   #16
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Good question. Here's a cut and paste I took from another site:

Smoking Vs. Vaporizing Cannabis

Depending on one’s experience within the realm of cannabis consumption, some may never have heard of vaporizing.

Vaporizing is a common technique for consuming marijuana, while at the same time negating many irritating respiratory toxins that exists within the grown marijuana flower and are released when smoked. Conversely, vaporizing allows one to get at all of the psychoactive ingredients available within that specific strain of marijuana , minus the combustion that ordinarily takes place during consumption.

The basic design of the average marijuana vaporizer is to allow marijuana smokers to inhale the many active Cannabinoids, while at the same time avoiding any of the harmful elements that may exist on that specific flower… although invisible to the naked eye.

While most don’t know it … There is a vast difference in the quality of smoke that one receives when they vaporize versus igniting their plant matter. When one smokes a joint, or hits their bong approximately 88% of the combusted smoke gases contain non-cannabinoid elements, most of which do not get you high and provide potential health risks.

Conversely when one uses a marijuana vaporizer the smoke/gases that they are inhaling consists of approximately 95% cannabinoids, otherwise known as the psychoactive ingredients that both calm the mind and soothe the body.
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Good question. Here's a cut and paste I took from another site:

Smoking Vs. Vaporizing Cannabis

Depending on one’s experience within the realm of cannabis consumption, some may never have heard of vaporizing.

Vaporizing is a common technique for consuming marijuana, while at the same time negating many irritating respiratory toxins that exists within the grown marijuana flower and are released when smoked. Conversely, vaporizing allows one to get at all of the psychoactive ingredients available within that specific strain of marijuana , minus the combustion that ordinarily takes place during consumption.

The basic design of the average marijuana vaporizer is to allow marijuana smokers to inhale the many active Cannabinoids, while at the same time avoiding any of the harmful elements that may exist on that specific flower… although invisible to the naked eye.

While most don’t know it … There is a vast difference in the quality of smoke that one receives when they vaporize versus igniting their plant matter. When one smokes a joint, or hits their bong approximately 88% of the combusted smoke gases contain non-cannabinoid elements, most of which do not get you high and provide potential health risks.

Conversely when one uses a marijuana vaporizer the smoke/gases that they are inhaling consists of approximately 95% cannabinoids, otherwise known as the psychoactive ingredients that both calm the mind and soothe the body.
Where do you buy these and are they expensive?
08-06-2013, 12:39 PM   #18
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Smoke results from combustion at 800-1000F. Vapor results from vaporization at lower temperatures, typically around 400F for cannabis.

Vapor contains as much as 83% less tar and other unwanted products than smoke.

Vaporizers can range from 150$ all the way up to several hundreds (as much as 800$ in the case of the Volcano).

A model I often suggest is the Arizer Solo (~ 200$ here) due to its portability, convenience and build quality.



In the picture above the Solo is interfaced with a water filtration apparatus ("bubbler" in the jargon). The vapor is generated by the Solo, then is diffused in the water. The water catches matter and particulates that are basically pollutants. Then the vapor comes out of the water filtered and enters your lungs. The result is vapor that is almost pure H20+cannabinoids.

Alternatively, you can use the vaporizer alone ("solo") with some of the glass attachments that come with it. They're basically glass straws which you "plug" into the Solo and pull on it like you would on a drink.



The solo has the merit of being portable because it contains a lithium battery and as you can see in the picture above, it is very small (fits in the palm of an adult hand).
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Where do you buy these and are they expensive?
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