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06-07-2013, 09:26 AM   #1
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Does chiropractic treatment help crohns

My daughter has crohns and she is starting remicad IV treatment today. My cousin tells me his chiropractor claims that his treatment to Crohns patients has helped or even cured crohns. Has any one ever heard of such a thing?
06-07-2013, 09:31 AM   #2
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That would be new to me... (not an expert, just a Mom)... I could see having your body aligned helping with the stress, but cure?

Will be interesting to hear other's views.
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06-07-2013, 09:47 AM   #3
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First I want to say welcome to the forum.

I swear by chiropractors.

BUT...........chiropractors can only help support the body but it CAN NOT cure crohn's!!!
Just my mama opinion!
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06-07-2013, 09:53 AM   #4
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Jack on occasion sees a osteopath and they will do massage etc but that was always more to help with joint pains as opposed to Crohn's. Both hubby and Jack have had craino-sacral massages/therapy that were "supposed" to help with Crohn's (this was done at MIL's expense as she is a huge believer in it), they felt better after words but then I always feel better after a massage as well.
I can't quite see how it would help Crohn's.
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06-07-2013, 10:01 AM   #5
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I would think it could possibly help, but I would not see a Dr. that claimed it cured crohn's. That is not possible and I would not be able to trust someone who made that claim.

Just my two cents.
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06-07-2013, 10:03 AM   #6
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^^^ Yeah that, I guess I missed the part about curing Crohn's.
06-07-2013, 10:09 AM   #7
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Like acupuncuture, I think it's nothing but quackery.
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06-07-2013, 10:28 AM   #8
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Funny you should ask. Just took O to a chiropractor for back and joint issues. She has an excellant reputation in this area and they have great success with allergies and a bunch of other things. However, just like the naturalpath she told me...they can only help support healing and meds but can not replace them.

That said, the body can not heal properly if the messages etc are not getting from the brain to where they need to go. A spine out of alignment will interfere with those messages, you can have issues with headaches, even stomache aches (non Crohns related) and even fatigue. O got her first adjustment last week and that combined with the change in our diet caused her to drop over 10 seconds on her half mile time and she had an amazing swim meet.

I can't say which it was but since she got the adjustment the day before the swim and track meets she is now superstitious and swears by adjustments. What can I say, some athletes have lucky socks...my daughter has a lucky chiropractor...socks are cheaper!
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06-07-2013, 11:17 AM   #9
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We saw our local version of your cousin's chiropracter - he "cured" ibd and allergies, did alignments and energy work like NAET. Obviously, it didn't cure us. The guy had a good thing going though, his office was always full and it was about $50 for a 10 minute session with him. And it apparently took some people hundreds of sessions to be cured, because, of course, "everyone's different". I do have some chiro friends who told me never to see a chiro who made these claims but of course desperate times call for desperate measures. I don't know - it might help others but it was not for us and it was quite expensive.
06-07-2013, 11:32 AM   #10
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Both hubby and Jack have had craino-sacral massages/therapy
Just a side note -

I had craino-sacral massage after a car accident (a really bad car accident) -- it was amazing!!
06-07-2013, 12:01 PM   #11
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Well i thought it was worth asking. Im sure it cant hurt to see a chiropractor along with normal treatment. I would have a hard time believing it would stop symptoms all together.
06-07-2013, 09:19 PM   #12
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I don't see any harm whatsoever in seeing a chiropractor and if it complements her current treatment all the better.

As to the cure claim =

Dusty. xxx
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06-07-2013, 09:52 PM   #13
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I saw a chiropractor when I was a kid due to lots of back pain. It didn't cure my disease nor make it any better (or make my back feel better for that matter). I have no interest in chiropractors myself as I have arthritis in my spine and all they ever did was pop my back in multiple places/ways. My physical therapist said that popping your joints doesn't cause arthritis but popping joints that are already weak or damaged from arthritis could cause further damage to the joints.
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04-20-2018, 01:48 PM   #14
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Hello! I am a Chiropractor and I am here because I have a special interest in digestive health both professionally and personally.
I hope I can help bring some clarity to this question.
There are 2 general types of chiropractors (not good or bad just different approaches like the medical field has different specialties): musculo-skeletal chiropractors choose to focus their care on the treatment of the spine and muscles for the purpose of relieving pain, increasing motion and the quality of life that a properly moving spine affords.
The second type of chiropractor is a nerve focused (sometimes called wellness) chiropractor. Their primary concern is the function of the central nervous system. They locate and reduce stress and interference to the nerves (subluxation) so that the body can better express its ability to function, regulate and heal.
Nerve focused chiropractors can help with Crohns as seen in my clinical practice and research like this:

Long Term remission and Alleviation of Symptoms
in Allergy and Crohn's Disease Patients
Following Spinal Adjustment for
Reduction of Vertebral Subluxations FROM: Journal of Vertebral Subluxation Research 2003 (Mar); 4 (4):

Chiropractors don't cure Crohns (or any other disease), they remove nerve interference which allows your body work and heal better. In some cases that has resulted in Crohns going into remission (along with a long list of other benefits).
My suggestion would be to find a chiropractor who is a specialist in nerve focused care (this is NOT the majority of Chiropractors).
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04-20-2018, 02:27 PM   #15
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Thank-you for weighing in. It is nice to hear from some one in the know and especially nice to hear from a chiropractor that they can't cure Crohn's.

I for one do appreciate chiropractic care as an adjunct to more traditional therapies.

There wasn't a link to the study provided so I googled and came up with this site.

http://www.chiro.org/research/ABSTRA...d_Crohns.shtml

There are some missing details so we are to be cautious with regard to the remission claim. I do appreciate that everyone was kept on their medications. Are there details of treatment plans? Were new meds started? Any escalations in therapy etc? How do we know that the medication didn't bring about remission? Was this a blinded study? I imagine it would be pretty hard to hide the fact that you are receiving such treatments. Unless maybe they did have a way to give the control group some sort of "treatment" but it isn't clear.

What is meant by remission? Clinical remission wit the absence of symptoms? Bio chemical remission? These are not but the goal of treatment for IBD. The goal histologic remission confirmed with endoscopy and biopsies.

This was a small study and more studies are needed.

Also, some IBD patients also have rheumatological issues for which chiropractic care is contraindicated (I think more the spinal adjustments but this isn't my area of expertise). So I would just caution them to check with their rheumatologist before undergoing chiropractic care.

Please know that I am not trying to be combative but rather added to the voice of caution as some newer patients might read things like this and be a tad misled...although you did a great job not over emphasizing the effect.
04-20-2018, 03:31 PM   #16
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Yes, in kids with JIA or juvenile spondyloarthritis or adults with Ankylosing Spondylitis, chiropractic care is not recommended according to the MANY rheumatologists we have seen - both pediatric and adult. It is particularly dangerous for adults with AS who have fusion in their spines. Spines that are fused become brittle and manipulation can results in fractures.

I would talk to your child's GI before seeing a chiropractor, though for Crohn's generally I don't think it would hurt unless the child has arthritis or sore joints.

For arthritis, my daughters and husband (who all have AS) have always been told physical therapy is more appropriate.
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04-20-2018, 03:32 PM   #17
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I want to add - Crohn's patients with low bone density (osteopenia, osteoporosis) should probably also be cautious and talk to their doctors before seeing a chiropractor.
04-21-2018, 09:30 AM   #18
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Very good points.
I just want to second or third 😊 what the others have said.
I'm a big believer in chiropractic care for myself but they won't touch my daughter because of her jia.
04-21-2018, 11:57 PM   #19
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I think chiropractors are great, but maybe just not for everyone. Personally, I'm really fortunate to have a great chiropractor here where I live. She is a darn fine doctor as well as a brilliant and very compassionate person. It was she who stopped a three month long episode of cluster headaches, I am forever grateful for what she did for me.
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