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Less than ecstatic

AZMOM

Moderator
Love the saran wrap idea! Go down to my antibody disseration, MLP, I've been waiting for your brain. :)
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Ironically a pretty good day. I can't get a stool sample. She had three bouts of diarrhea yesterday between school and my mom's but nothing at home. We're out eating dinner right now so that oughtta do it ;).

J.
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Back from the Windy City. Good news is fecal calprotectin somewhat improved - 310. Mixed news is c diff results say "toxigenic c diff detected". Im waiting for a call from the doc. Not sure if the antigen is something you always have if you've had an infection in the past? Or does she have an active infection?

Thoughts????? I'll post when I hear back.

J.
 

Tesscorm

Moderator
Staff member
Hope it's just an indication of past infection! :ghug: And glad you're seeing improvement in the FC! :D
 
I asked the same thing a year ago to to the Infectious Disease Consultant.

Here's their answer

Yes/No

Yes if OBVIOUS SIGNS of a c diff infection then the test might be right.
No if their is no sign.

BUT...I said she has problems in the bathroom anyways. How can I tell the difference?

They said her inflammation markers would be up. I didn't ask what ones because I still had no idea what she had.

Call you call the IDC and get a phone consult?
 

Dexky

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Sorry to hear it J! I hope the flagyl helps quickly! Is she still having joint pain too? Could cdiff have any effect on RA?
 
Julie, when you say symptomatic, did she ever start going more than twice a day? When Brian had first bought of C Diff he was going like 9+ times a day (in December.) His inflammation is creeping up last 3 labs(3 mos). I asked doc yesterday if this could be C Diff cause he's going 1-2 times a day...but always begins with a bit of Diarrhea/gassy then ends with logs. She said if he's having the logs and only 1-2x then its not C Diff. She also said they will not test if its not Diarrhea. I asked...why not? She said, they just won't. I noticed that you said Claire was only going 1-2 times also.

Thanks Julie for taking time to answer my question when you are going thru a lot yourself. HUGS!!!! And I hope the Flagyl helps her quickly :)
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Kathy - you're a sweetie. :). She's going a couple of times a day. But sometimes 4-5. New onset of bleeding. Random low grade fevers.

That about covers it. Lol.

Claires doc doesn't always check for c diff when she has bleeding but I had emailed him because things were "different" than usual.

Dexky - good question. Her wrists are really bothering her tonight. I'll have to do some reading.

Hugs. J.
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Day 3 of flagyl - she still seems way tired but somewhat better. Hoping to get out in the sunshine this weekend. We all need some springtime!

At this point we're proceeding with the MRE Monday.

J.
 

CarolinAlaska

Holding It Together
Is she drinking the stuff or by NG tube? I hope it goes well. Be forewarned that an IV is involved. We weren't prepared for that...
 

AZMOM

Moderator
CarolinAlaska - she drank it. All. In an hour instead of two hours. The girl is a machine - god love her.

T - It all went well. :)

J.
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Got the online report today. See the doc Tursday. No evidence of obstruction or narrowing. So that's GREAT. I didn't expect her to have that anyway but it's good to know. I'll pick her labs up this afternoon.

I guess I expected more detail than "ruling out" but am realizing now that's silly. Im used to what's seen on scope vs impression of the "outlines". Does that make sense?

J.
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Well she spoke up for herself re her pain. So now we're scoping again to get a look at the left side pain that so rarely subsides. That was GI

Rheumy sees active inflammation in hand and fingers on one side. And excess fluid in hips. However no hip joint loss of motion etc.

J.
 

Crohn's Mom

Moderator
J I'm sorry that Claire is finally able to speak for herself and describe her pain :(

Does that sound stupid ??
I doubt it ~ I know you get it ! :ghug:
 
Just want to send a hug and a shout out to all you parents of children with Crohn's Disease. It breaks my heart to hear of young childrn suffering from this and I know you parents try EVERYTHING to help them. I can see that many of these children have been on multiple medications and have probably seen a lot of doctors.
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Dex - April 12 or 19. They're supposed to let me know.

Part of me thinks they're not necessary and I have an irrational fear of everything in there being "fine". Please note I said lRRATIONAL.
 

Tesscorm

Moderator
Staff member
I'm so sorry that Claire is dealing with pain! :(

Can the rheumy do anything to lessen the pain/inflammation? I hope the scopes give you some answers! Wish they could be done sonner.

:ghug: :ghug:
 

my little penguin

Moderator
Staff member
Does she have a TENS unit to help relive the pain for a bit to give her a "break" and a little more control until the scope?

DS has one- it didn't get rid of the pain at times- but definitely helped him deal with it.
 

DustyKat

Super Moderator
Oh man J...:hug:

I so wish there was more I could do for you both...sending loads of love, luck and well wishes your way! :heart:

Dusty. xxx
 

Tesscorm

Moderator
Staff member
Claire's so lucky to have you! It's not easy to always stay positive and patient and have the energy to get through one more day. :ghug: Is there any way you can take a bit of time out today to do something for just you?
 
You're doing a fab job, she really is lucky to have you, you will always be really close.
My J is 19, but you're right she could be 49 and I would never stop fighting for her. It is exhausting. Hope you manage to get some time out.

Thinking of you both (((hugs)))

:ghug:
 

Crohn's Mom

Moderator
Of course you won't stop fighting J, cause you're one kick ass mommy !!
Hang in there and maybe go get a nice massage and mani and pedi :ghug:
(and don't forget the margarita!)
much love ! :heart:
 

my little penguin

Moderator
Staff member
Cabana boys your way, trashy magazines and lots and lots of chocolate.

YOu can put your big girl pants on in the am
have a good cry today
 
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AZMOM

Moderator
MLP - you crack me up! :ylol: I shall name my cabana boy Antoine.

Dex - I'm not sure I know. :ybatty: I'm frustrated a little with Acra although I do respect and appreciate him.

CarolinAlaska - thank you :ghug:

J.
 

DustyKat

Super Moderator
Oh J...my heart breaks for you hun...what I wouldn't give to nip on over there and lend you hand and shoulder...:ghug:

Thinking of you all, always. :heart:

Dusty. xxx
 

AZMOM

Moderator
In a twist of irony, she seems to feel a lot better today other than her twisted finger. She spent the day with my Mom who called not in a total panic but was concerned about all the blood in the toilet. Blood in the stool, blood in the water and blood on the toilet seat when she got up.

But, she's smiling and upstairs playing with a friend, so for today.....I refuse to fret! (Ask me tomorrow ;-))

J.
 

AZMOM

Moderator
4 rounds on the toilet today. I only saw the last one and my heart sank.

Water was tinged a pale rust color. Long line of rust/marroon colored blood down the toilet bowel and what looked like a little stool and a lot of mucus at the bottom. Marroon colored bubbles on top of the water. Rusty blood on the toilet paper.

Usually our adventures in bleeding are bright red or black. What's rust? Halfway? MLP? Dusty? I need opinions.

She has a friend over and yelled for me to come in there. We are trying not to discuss it until the friend goes home. I'm trying not to worry worry worry.

Love you all for being willing and empathetic to consider Claire's BM consistency and color (weak attempt at humor)

J.
 

my little penguin

Moderator
Staff member
Hugs
DS had rust dark red color in jan thankfully the mini flare only lasted a few days and resolved on its own.
Rust color typically means older blood - red bottom , black top Gi tract
Rust I would assume maybe little higher up ?? Hanging out for a bit
I just don't know
Glad she was able to hang out with her friend though
 

DustyKat

Super Moderator
Oh J...:ghug:

I agree with mlp, but it would be difficult to pin down a location. An UGIB (Upper Gastro Intestinal Bleed) is primarily from just above the distal end of the duodenum up, so mainly the stomach and oesophagus. A LGIB (Lower) is from the distal duodenum through the the anus.

An UGIB is what normally produces the black/tarry stools.

A LGIB will usually produce rust/maroon stools. It is the fast transit time that can produce this colour from quite high up in the bowel. I would be inclined to think that if a fast transit is not a possibility then perhaps the bleeding is higher than the anus but still contained within the large bowel??? That is just my musing though J.

Thinking of you! :heart:

Dusty. xxx
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Thank you all. So hypothetically all this pain behind her sternum and at top of stomach there may be a bleed that would show up rust-ish with fast transit? Am I tracking?

She's been of the flagyl/c-diff train for 6 days. Probably need to recheck that but I really don't think it's at play.

J.
 

AZMOM

Moderator
I just reread your response and saw it said quite "high up in the BOWEL". I think Inquit reading at "high". Yep, fried momma. :)

J.
 

Dexky

To save time...Ask Dusty!
Location
Kentucky
((((J and C))))

I'm really not fond of emoticons and text hugs but it's all I can offer! Wish they were real J!
 

CarolinAlaska

Holding It Together
I'd be just like you - obsessing! What in the world! I guess it is better than what your mother reported... Maybe it has to do with that bleed clearing up from earlier?
 

AZMOM

Moderator
Well stool frequency is better, pain is worse. Fed her some of that organic blended food you suck out of a tube for dinner. It's about all she could tolerate. Couple more days of this and Im calling the doc.

J.
 

AZMOM

Moderator
She slept 5 hrs yesterday afternoon. Stool situation stable. Pain under sternum complaints and back pain complaints did not change. Im working today and she'll be with my mom. I'll let you all know the report.

J.
 
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